JBP 4-Pass Intercooler

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-17-2006, 01:33 PM
  #1  
JBP
Banned
Thread Starter
 
JBP's Avatar
 
Join Date: 07-04-06
Location: Toronto
Posts: 606
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Canada JBP 4-Pass Intercooler

Folks,

We're happy to announce our 4-Pass intercooler for those running high boost, high temperatures.

Our 4-Pass intercooler is JBPs gift to those who want to retain stock look, with the best cooling possible for high boost, high temperature builds. We've employed 4 specialty laminova tubes, internal passageway mods and engineering know-how to develop our 4-Pass Intercooler.

The nice this about this upgrade is that it is the stock unit revamped. Stock appearance, with double the flow, and close to triple the cooling effect with a 4-pass intercooler. There is no need to upgrade the aftercooler or any other part of the supercharger cooling system once this is in place.

Pricing for the 4-Pass intercooler will be approximately $429CDN. and will include the following:

- 4 Specialty Laminova Tubes
- Replacement High Flow/Volume Pump
- Replacement Stainless Braided Steel Coolant Lines
- Modified Coolant Outlet Ports
- Double Inlet Ports
- Instructions for installation

Customers ship us their stock Intercooler, we ship back the 4-Pass Intercooler, ready to install.
Old 10-17-2006, 01:38 PM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
distillion's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-11-05
Location: mississauga
Posts: 6,298
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
so this is like the dual pass gm stage 3 uses, only more effecient?
Old 10-17-2006, 01:44 PM
  #3  
JBP
Banned
Thread Starter
 
JBP's Avatar
 
Join Date: 07-04-06
Location: Toronto
Posts: 606
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
No, the Stage 3 is a 2-Pass, this is a 4-Pass.
Old 10-17-2006, 01:46 PM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
06black's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-13-05
Location: the glove
Posts: 5,733
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
pictures???
Old 10-17-2006, 01:47 PM
  #5  
JBP
Banned
Thread Starter
 
JBP's Avatar
 
Join Date: 07-04-06
Location: Toronto
Posts: 606
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Pics?... Hmm, I think you'll be disappointed since it looks exactly like the stock unit.

edit: with an extra 1" Russel fitting sticking out of it.
Old 10-17-2006, 01:48 PM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
Smarty Art's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-29-06
Location: Pennsylvania, Greensburg
Posts: 1,084
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Pictures and numbers!
Old 10-17-2006, 01:49 PM
  #7  
Senior Member
 
NoRemorse's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02-24-06
Location: Michigan
Posts: 610
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by JBP
No, the Stage 3 is a 2-Pass, this is a 4-Pass.
please define '4 pass'

does it go thorugh all 4 at once? because that is a single pass

if it goes through all in a serial manner, that is a 4 pass, how it is stock. the fluid makes 4 passes through the manifold.
Old 10-17-2006, 01:52 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
06black's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-13-05
Location: the glove
Posts: 5,733
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by JBP
Pics?... Hmm, I think you'll be disappointed since it looks exactly like the stock unit.

edit: with an extra 1" Russel fitting sticking out of it.
i'm more intersted in the high flow pump and steel lines you speek of.
Old 10-17-2006, 01:54 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
automobiliben's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-13-05
Location: Naperville, IL
Posts: 610
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by NoRemorse
please define '4 pass'

does it go thorugh all 4 at once? because that is a single pass

if it goes through all in a serial manner, that is a 4 pass, how it is stock. the fluid makes 4 passes through the manifold.
So is that how people define the passes? I haven't heard anything definite yet, but everyone has been throwing around something different. Using your definition, I think what they are selling would be considered a 2 pass.
Old 10-17-2006, 01:55 PM
  #10  
JBP
Banned
Thread Starter
 
JBP's Avatar
 
Join Date: 07-04-06
Location: Toronto
Posts: 606
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by NoRemorse
please define '4 pass'

does it go thorugh all 4 at once? because that is a single pass

if it goes through all in a serial manner, that is a 4 pass, how it is stock. the fluid makes 4 passes through the manifold.

Actually, you have it backwards:

Stock SINGLE Pass, Single Inlet, Serial run.

JBP:

Stock QUAD Pass, Double Inlet, Double Parallel run.
Old 10-17-2006, 01:57 PM
  #11  
Senior Member
 
NoRemorse's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02-24-06
Location: Michigan
Posts: 610
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Also, I am a bit leary of a higher flow pump. If flow increases, more than liekly the pressure in the system will increase (the manifold might flow more now, but what about the stock HE? anything over 5psi, and the system leaks

EDIT:

Ok, well, the termionolgy for a 'pass' is actaully very debatable, but that is niether here nor there. the fact is you are running all 4 cores in parallele.

are there any logs to show improved IAT2s? This will increase flow, but decrease the time the fluid spends in the manifold, letting it 'absorb' less heat.

Just curious on how effective it is.
Old 10-17-2006, 01:58 PM
  #12  
JBP
Banned
Thread Starter
 
JBP's Avatar
 
Join Date: 07-04-06
Location: Toronto
Posts: 606
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by NoRemorse
Also, I am a bit leary of a higher flow pump. If flow increases, more than liekly the pressure in the system will increase (the manifold might flow more now, but what about the stock HE? anything over 5psi, and the system leaks
Hence the new provided lines.
Old 10-17-2006, 01:58 PM
  #13  
Senior Member
 
automobiliben's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-13-05
Location: Naperville, IL
Posts: 610
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by JBP
Actually, you have it backwards:

Stock SINGLE Pass, Single Inlet, Serial run.

JBP:

Stock QUAD Pass, Double Inlet, Double Parallel run.
Maybe putting up a diagram would be very helpful. This is all getting very confusing, everyone is calling the passes something different. If you guys have just added one exit fitting, then everyone is referring to that as a dual pass.
Old 10-17-2006, 02:07 PM
  #14  
Senior Member
 
srt-killer's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-26-06
Location: Arizona
Posts: 790
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
What are the IAT 2 temps?
Old 10-17-2006, 02:07 PM
  #15  
JBP
Banned
Thread Starter
 
JBP's Avatar
 
Join Date: 07-04-06
Location: Toronto
Posts: 606
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by automobiliben
Maybe putting up a diagram would be very helpful. This is all getting very confusing, everyone is calling the passes something different. If you guys have just added one exit fitting, then everyone is referring to that as a dual pass.
When I have some time, I'll explain with a diagram so everyone has a clear idea as to what a 4-pass is.
Old 10-17-2006, 02:39 PM
  #16  
Senior Member
 
06black's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-13-05
Location: the glove
Posts: 5,733
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by JBP
When I have some time, I'll explain with a diagram so everyone has a clear idea as to what a 4-pass is.
I'm excited for this!!!

any price idea?
Old 10-17-2006, 02:45 PM
  #17  
Senior Member
 
NoRemorse's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02-24-06
Location: Michigan
Posts: 610
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by JBP
Hence the new provided lines.
sorry, missed that part. pretty impressive package. Still raises the question about flow vs. time spent absorbing heat.

EIther way, I am sure it works very well. I would love to see some data logs!!!
Old 10-17-2006, 02:47 PM
  #18  
Senior Member
 
distillion's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-11-05
Location: mississauga
Posts: 6,298
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
listening....
if you say that an aftermarket heat exchanger isnt needed with this unit, im in 100%
Old 10-17-2006, 02:50 PM
  #19  
New Member
 
pierre's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10-20-05
Location: Bedford MA
Posts: 84
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by JBP
Actually, you have it backwards:

Stock SINGLE Pass, Single Inlet, Serial run.

JBP:

Stock QUAD Pass, Double Inlet, Double Parallel run.
Sorry you have it backwards. Stock is 4 pass. Between the inlet and the outlet the coolant passes through 4 seperate laminova cores and has to go into a chamber to reverse its direction each time.

Pierre
Old 10-17-2006, 02:50 PM
  #20  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
06blackg85ss's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-22-06
Location: New York
Posts: 15,212
Received 20 Likes on 18 Posts
so two inlets (on what used to be the stock inlet and outlet) and one outlet ... in the middle of course... than that would be the dual pass setup... unless you got something else going on here... clue me in... I just did a dual pass on my car.. and saw a decent decrease in my iat2... is your setup different/more efficient... got any logs to show difference... not being a P.I.T.A. ... but I"m a glutton for info.
Old 10-17-2006, 02:53 PM
  #21  
Senior Member
 
DWK5150's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-04-06
Location: Illinois
Posts: 919
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss
so two inlets (on what used to be the stock inlet and outlet) and one outlet ... in the middle of course... than that would be the dual pass setup... unless you got something else going on here... clue me in... I just did a dual pass on my car.. and saw a decent decrease in my iat2... is your setup different/more efficient... got any logs to show difference... not being a P.I.T.A. ... but I"m a glutton for info.
Did you ever rearrange your cores?
Old 10-17-2006, 02:55 PM
  #22  
Senior Member
 
Tomtwtwtw's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-30-06
Location: Chandler, AZ
Posts: 5,491
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by 06black
any price idea?
He gave the price on the original post.
Old 10-17-2006, 02:55 PM
  #23  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
06blackg85ss's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-22-06
Location: New York
Posts: 15,212
Received 20 Likes on 18 Posts
Didn't get a chance this weekend... and next weekend looks like I gotta swap a tranny on one car and a motor on another... so... hopefully I'll get a new intake gasket in the process and get my car finished one of these days... still haven't put my rear tranny mount back in... sitting in my trunk for weeks now.
Old 10-17-2006, 03:01 PM
  #24  
New Member
 
pierre's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10-20-05
Location: Bedford MA
Posts: 84
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by NoRemorse
Also, I am a bit leary of a higher flow pump. If flow increases, more than liekly the pressure in the system will increase (the manifold might flow more now, but what about the stock HE? anything over 5psi, and the system leaks

EDIT:

Ok, well, the termionolgy for a 'pass' is actaully very debatable, but that is niether here nor there. the fact is you are running all 4 cores in parallele.

are there any logs to show improved IAT2s? This will increase flow, but decrease the time the fluid spends in the manifold, letting it 'absorb' less heat.
You will not see 5 PSI from any automotive intercooler pump in a working system. It's mostly thermal expansion that causes the pressure rise.

If you assume a perfect pump the time for the coolant to go all the way through 4 cores in series is the same as 4 cores in parallel.

Frankly I'd be more worried about balancing the coolant flow through 4 cores in parallel.

Pierre
Old 10-17-2006, 03:10 PM
  #25  
Senior Member
 
2K5SS/SC?'s Avatar
 
Join Date: 07-08-05
Location: Niceville, FL
Posts: 6,200
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Holy **** I'm really confused right now. I need a diagram to follow this one.


Quick Reply: JBP 4-Pass Intercooler



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:40 PM.