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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 12:48 PM
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Dry Shot question???

Ya im wanting to do a 35hp Dry shot on my redline, i have 60#'s, but im going to stick with my 2.8 and run rich for the dry setup, that way when it sprays the car will lean out just enough to be safe? You guys think it will be safe to do or do you suggest i go with a wet kit? I just dont want to do anything over a 35 shot, so i figure a wet kit would not be worth it. Let me know what you guys think?
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 01:08 PM
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since u have tuning u can always tune for the dry shot.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 01:23 PM
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I have always wanted to do a 25 shot at least for the cooling purposes of it.
Definitely a dry shot. I don't know much about tuning for nitrous so good question.

Who makes the best dry shot kit?
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 01:36 PM
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Ya man, my main purpose would be really for getting a nice cool charge........Cause its 95+ here in missouri and its killing my car at the track, plus it would be nice to have some extra power in the RL,but be safe with it.

Someone chime in for us and really get into detail if it will be totally safe or not? And will it help with cooling alot? Also what Dry Kit is the best?

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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 01:44 PM
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The only company I can find that makes a 25 shot for 4 cylinders is Cold Fusion.

It's a 25-75 shot adjustable. About $450.00
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jekqmb
Ya im wanting to do a 35hp Dry shot on my redline, i have 60#'s, but im going to stick with my 2.8 and run rich for the dry setup, that way when it sprays the car will lean out just enough to be safe? You guys think it will be safe to do or do you suggest i go with a wet kit? I just dont want to do anything over a 35 shot, so i figure a wet kit would not be worth it. Let me know what you guys think?
it should be safe, so long as it is tuned for it.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 01:50 PM
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Well the tune i have now is running rich with the 2.8 on, so i figure if i keep the 2.8 with the tune i have now it should be safe, cause it is running rich enough for a 35 shot easily, i could even lean it out a bit and be safe im sure...........
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 01:53 PM
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then, go for it. such a small shot should be ok.

you gonna run it with a button, or a gas pedal switch?
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 02:00 PM
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Gas pedal switch is the way to go man.

Here is the kit we are looking for. $425.00

Item # CFN-902 (25-75 dry shot 4 cylinder)

http://www.nitrouspowered.com/Search...17&Search.y=13


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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 03:10 PM
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That looks like a nice kit
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 04:21 PM
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For a 35 shot? You don't need tuning. Just spray in front of your MAF sensor. Your PCM will adjust itself.

If you were spraying a 50 or bigger I wouldn't rely on the MAF sensor but for a 35 shot you will be just fine.

No Problems!
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 05:15 PM
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Thanks alot man, and this is good info coming from someone with the bottle! Will it afftect my MAF at all though since the Nitrous is so cold, Could it freeze it?
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 09:13 AM
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Thanks alot man, and this is good info coming from someone with the bottle! Will it afftect my MAF at all though since the Nitrous is so cold, Could it freeze it?
That is a great question I was thinking the same thing.
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 09:42 AM
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Thanks alot man, and this is good info coming from someone with the bottle! Will it afftect my MAF at all though since the Nitrous is so cold, Could it freeze it?
Good question. What you will need to do is make sure your jet is not pointed directly at your MAF sensor, but rather that the nitrous goes around it evenly. The cold nitrous(-270+ degrees) is what will cause your PCM to dump more fuel so the cold is good, but DIRECTLY spraying on your MAF is bad. -270 degrees will freeze pretty much ANYTHING it comes into contact with for a "long" period of time. Usually you don't spray long enough to damage the MAF But with a smaller shot you may be more prone to spray more often, depends on your driving habits and on our cars in order to spray in front of the MAF sensor you basically have to spray right on top of the damn thing. SO....

I would *suggest* to allow the nitrous to go through your filter. The intake vacuum will pick up all the nitrous especially running a WOT switch. This will distribute it evenly through out your intake and still drop Intake temps enough to safely change your A/F ratio . This should not harm your Air filter in any way (do not use K&N, use AEM dryflo), especially with a 35 shot or less. And you will certainly not "filter" out your shot.

I would personally just put a hole big enough for the nitrous jet right toward the bottom of the stock intake box and use that approach. Plus you could mount the solenoid down low and with both that and the jet being out of site, it would be next to impossible to tell your spraying unless you open your trunk.

Hope this helps, let me know if you need me to clarify something or you need more help.
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 02:40 PM
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Oh damn, thank you so much! I just ordered my kit today, you were alot of help with this and i really appreciate the Write up, someone should sticky that cause it would help alot of people who want to run dry shots.
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 02:53 PM
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No problem. If you need any Nitrous jets I think I have 2 left from my kit..a 25 jet and a 35 jet.

If you are not happy with your 35 shot...dyno tune offers jets that go up in 5 shot incrememnts I think for really cheap pricing...you could go 5 at a time up to 40 or 50 until you find what works for you? 50 is certainly the limit I would stop at with a dry kit though...75 with a wet kit on our cars. I think you will be happy with the 35 shot though...not a huge difference but enough and it should be really safe! Good luck with it. Let me know if you have anymore questions!
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 08:19 AM
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Good question. What you will need to do is make sure your jet is not pointed directly at your MAF sensor, but rather that the nitrous goes around it evenly. The cold nitrous(-270+ degrees) is what will cause your PCM to dump more fuel so the cold is good, but DIRECTLY spraying on your MAF is bad. -270 degrees will freeze pretty much ANYTHING it comes into contact with for a "long" period of time. Usually you don't spray long enough to damage the MAF But with a smaller shot you may be more prone to spray more often, depends on your driving habits and on our cars in order to spray in front of the MAF sensor you basically have to spray right on top of the damn thing. SO....

I would *suggest* to allow the nitrous to go through your filter. The intake vacuum will pick up all the nitrous especially running a WOT switch. This will distribute it evenly through out your intake and still drop Intake temps enough to safely change your A/F ratio . This should not harm your Air filter in any way (do not use K&N, use AEM dryflo), especially with a 35 shot or less. And you will certainly not "filter" out your shot.

I would personally just put a hole big enough for the nitrous jet right toward the bottom of the stock intake box and use that approach. Plus you could mount the solenoid down low and with both that and the jet being out of site, it would be next to impossible to tell your spraying unless you open your trunk.

Hope this helps, let me know if you need me to clarify something or you need more help.
Great info. I was thinking a pin hole through the top of the filter should work. Like this.
Would that still be too cold for the MAF?

Thanks for the info. I'm thinking about a 25 or a 35 shot.

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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 06:18 PM
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Hey i got the kit all done, the car lights the tires up at 40-45 now on a 35 shot probably = to 40whp.....No problems at all and i sprayed it 5 times already...Bottle psi is at 900 and the nozzle is mounted on the intake box and it goes through the filter before the MAF, i will take pics tonight and get a vid so you guys can see it. The kit is totally hidden, i have to give a thank you to my friend Pat who did most of the install for me. I know he gets on here and looks! Pics and vid tonight and ill do a write up this evening and have it posted in the how to section!
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 10:14 AM
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Great info. I was thinking a pin hole through the top of the filter should work. Like this.
Would that still be too cold for the MAF?

Thanks for the info. I'm thinking about a 25 or a 35 shot.
You know that might actually work?

Be sure your not letting any debri in though...yikes.

Hey i got the kit all done, the car lights the tires up at 40-45 now on a 35 shot probably = to 40whp.....No problems at all and i sprayed it 5 times already...Bottle psi is at 900 and the nozzle is mounted on the intake box and it goes through the filter before the MAF, i will take pics tonight and get a vid so you guys can see it. The kit is totally hidden, i have to give a thank you to my friend Pat who did most of the install for me. I know he gets on here and looks! Pics and vid tonight and ill do a write up this evening and have it posted in the how to section!
Wonderful. Told you to go through the filter you should be VERY safe with your 35 this way. You can run all day with no ill affects.

If you want to heat your bottle up and don't have a heater (I recommend 1100 PSI for a proper shot) put the bottle in the sink with VERY HOT water and you can watch the PSI just go straight up. Take it out at 1100 PSI and then go spray
Your not getting quite a full shot at 900 PSI and running a 35 shot at 1100 PSI...you can probably empty the 10lb bottle and never drop below 900PSI (assuming it is all in one night).

Glad it worked out for you!! Good job...should be really safe too!

Congrats!
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 10:51 AM
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Hey i got the kit all done, the car lights the tires up at 40-45 now on a 35 shot probably = to 40whp.....No problems at all and i sprayed it 5 times already...Bottle psi is at 900 and the nozzle is mounted on the intake box and it goes through the filter before the MAF, i will take pics tonight and get a vid so you guys can see it. The kit is totally hidden, i have to give a thank you to my friend Pat who did most of the install for me. I know he gets on here and looks! Pics and vid tonight and ill do a write up this evening and have it posted in the how to section!
That is sweet, can't wait to see it. Wet or dry?

I'm not going to go that route FNFAST. I'm just going to place the jet in the intake tube and tune for a wet 35 shot.

That will be my first mod come spring time. Free Christmas nitrous kit FTW!
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 11:42 AM
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question..i want to run a 50 dry on my balt its stock do i need to do any tuning and where would i place the nozzle? any help would be great
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