ok now i am going to get my K&N intake and full exhaust before i buy my nitrous set up.

but here are the two set ups i am looking at. what is the brand difference? quality? etc. etc. Also i was looking at doing direct port injection so i have less likelyhood of puddling in the intake manifold. thus less chance of blow back. yes i will get a step or two colder plugs and i would start small and maybe take it to 100shot at most.


all comments and suggestions welcome


NX

4 Cylinder EFI Piranha Nozzle
http://www.nitrousexpress.com/Pages/80004EFI.htm

OctaneSeries
Progressive Nitrous Controller
http://www.nitrousexpress.com/Pages/octaneseries.htm

15600 Nitrous purge valve (D-4 manifold, push button and vent tube)
http://www.nitrousexpress.com/Pages/PurgeValves.htm

15940 Heavy duty fully automatic bottle heater D-4
http://www.nitrousexpress.com/Pages/BottleHeater.htm

11708 NHRA blow down tube



ZEX

4 Cyl. Direct Port Nitrous System (50-200hp) PART #82030
http://www.compperformancegroupstore...NITROUSSYSTEMS

Racer's Tuning Kit PART #82001
http://www.compperformancegroupstore...OUSACCESSORIES

Traction Control Window Switch PART #82085
http://www.compperformancegroupstore...OUSACCESSORIES



ZEX DRY

EAA Ejector Air Amplifier™ $39.95
82011 "Dry" Nitrous System 55-75hp $566.95

82106 Sport Compact Nitrous Injection $27.00

82001 Racer's Tuning Kit $308.08

82085 Traction Control Window Switch $178.45

82020 Booster Fuel Pump Kit $188.95
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Total: $1,309.38

 

do not get a direct port system, get a wet kit.

allot of problems with going to the direct port including NOT being able to spray less than a 50 jet when u want to, tuning for the direct port and just the fact tht its useless on a 4cyl.

now, a wet kit is perfect, no tuning and relativly safe.

 

well the whole point with doing direct port is to avoid that "relatively safe" part i want it to be as safe as i can make it. and with the progressive set up i should be able to tune it pretty easy.

bump anyone?

 

Get a 50 wet shot no tune just straight hook up and own i hooked mine up in about 3 hours alot of ppl dont know what a 50 shot cobalt does to this car they go by what they see on vids or what they hear im tellin you cheapest mod and it will own a tvs cobalt

 

but with the wet kit isn't there a chance of puddling in the manifold? and that can lead to a blow back?

 

ok so i was doing some searching and i may get a dry kit check the first post

 

go wet man. its the safest way to go. dry kits involves messin with the jets over and over to get it right. and if you get a zex kit it has its own management system to keep it even more safe.

 

why in the world would u want a dry kit? so u can run like **** when not on N2o? because u tune for a dry kit, u DO NOT rely on ur car to automatically compensate for the fuel. A wet kit adds equal parts fuel and n20 making it safe. DO U WANT TO RUIN UR CAR?

 

QFT!! as i stated with the zex kit it will moniter the fuel and adjust accordingly thus makin it pretty safe and anyway you wanna look at it any wet shot is much more safe than a dry shot.

 

yeah but is puddling a major issue? also i hear that the 'noids burn out pretty "easy" on some set ups. and can't i plug and play some bigger injectors/ use that fuel pump booster??

 

puddling is only a big issue when you try to spray off the line and bog it. when your at wot and spray the motor will suck all the n2o and fuel down without leavin any puddle in the mani. as far as the silenoids burnin out. cheap ones may burn out but if you go with a good brand then that shouldnt be an issue.

 

i've got one for you

 

yeah i never really thought of it that way.... how hard is it to "upgrade"/change to a wet system from a dry? also how hard is an injector swap? i was reading that the stock injectors should be good until a 100 shot.

 

at first i was a little shaky on writin that but what i raced about 5 nights ago im not worried anymore

 

as far as i know to upgrade to wet you'd need a few more lines an extra silenoid for the fuel and a new nozzle for mixin the fuel and n2o. i dont know much bout doin injector swaps. sorry cant help you there. but goin over 100 shot isnt really safe for any off the 3 motors in the balts unless your willin to build the internals up.

 

yeah i have been PM'n Joe about systems and i am still going to get intake and exhaust and read still more and then start buying my nitrous systems

 

really do tell

 

Im running the Zex wet 55 shot on my 2.2 with just injen intake. It runs great and you have to go with the wet shot no other option for our cars

 

nitrous is universal unless you go direct injection or some TB/manifold type injection trying to hide it better.


but i was talking to my friend, engineer major, and he was saying go dry. mainly b/c its safer for the motor. since the dry stays a gas unlike a wet kit which goes to a liquid, you are pretty much just running really really really combustible air. sure you don't make as much power, but you run cooler and safer. and its cheaper. i can get a full set up for under 950 dollars.

 

My wet kit cost 1000 with installation and wet is safer for your engine

 

wet has a higher temp during the firing. so more wear on the engine. you make more power but..... more wear.