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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 07:56 PM
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N20 problems...need help

What can cause you to lose power in a certin gear as you spray? Was doing a pull on the nitrous and 2nd gear pulled hard but then i shifted into 3rd and it started losing power. I did a 3rd gear pull off the nitrous and it was fine so i did another on the nitrous and it started losing power agian Why is this only happening in 3rd?
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 07:57 PM
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KR pullin timing?
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 08:01 PM
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Try it in 2nd again? Was the bottle pressure good?
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 06_SIC_SS
KR pullin timing?
So that would be in the tune? and why only in 3rd then?

Originally Posted by Perfect.disguise
Try it in 2nd again? Was the bottle pressure good?
Yea 2nd pulled hard agian on the spray

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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 08:04 PM
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Any idea on the AIT's?
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Perfect.disguise
Any idea on the AIT's?
Not sure
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 08:07 PM
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how big are ur injectors and what kinda tune ? if ur running dry u might be running outta fuel :X
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SunburstSS
how big are ur injectors and what kinda tune ? if ur running dry u might be running outta fuel :X
im running 42# inj... wet kit....75 shot.....running a ZZP nitrous tune

Its never had this problem before....im on my 12th bottle
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 08:14 PM
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Knock Retard would be because of detonation...

might only be doing it in 3rd bc its only knocking in 3rd..

but for u to actually FEEL it losing power.. i feel like its not just pulling timing.. because ive had my car pull timing but ive never been actually able to FEEL it lose power

but in all honesty id get hptuners or get a data log on a 3rd gear pull and see if its pullin timing.. if u do it and its clean.. u know its somethin with the bottle pressure or something along those lines
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by StreetLC
im running 42# inj... wet kit....75 shot.....running a ZZP nitrous tune

Its never had this problem before....im on my 12th bottle
assuming ur nos fuel selenoid is good and ur ic pump is moving coolant i have no idea whats going on, check ur ic pump and make sure the fluid is moving, and make sure ur spark plugs are fine and ur not misfiring...
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SunburstSS
assuming ur nos fuel selenoid is good and ur ic pump is moving coolant i have no idea whats going on, check ur ic pump and make sure the fluid is moving, and make sure ur spark plugs are fine and ur not misfiring...
Selenoid is good, ic pump working, plugs are new.........has to be in the tune
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 08:58 PM
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Gotta be knocking. Get the car logged via HPT or something during a pull, i'd bet you're getting knock and seeing massive timing loss.

Try some race gas and see if it changes.
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ItalianJoe1
Gotta be knocking. Get the car logged via HPT or something during a pull, i'd bet you're getting knock and seeing massive timing loss.

Try some race gas and see if it changes.
When i did the pull i was runing 100 cotane.......Should i get my tune reflashed or something?
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 11:49 PM
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I guess. I don't see how it's knocking on 100 octane unless thier tune it way off.
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ItalianJoe1
I guess. I don't see how it's knocking on 100 octane unless thier tune it way off.
Can a tune go bad all of a sudden?......cause ive run more then 10 bottles with this tune and it has never done it before.
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 03:38 AM
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I'm almost gonna bet That it is your bottle pressure dropping as it is being sprayed, hence why the longer it is open the lower the pressure gets.

Edit: could be a bad fill also
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 04:19 AM
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hmmm, check bottle pressure, fuel pressure and see if your cat is getting clogged.

if your running catless and bottle pressure/temp is good then check fuel pump/pressure/filter.

i think zzp has there iat adders turned on still and if you hit high iat's like 158+ it pulls 5-8* timing.

like mentioned already you need to log it to seee what is going on. cause obviously something is up if you have ran 10+ bottles and now its happening.

the reason it would knock in third and not second is cyl pressure is higher in third increasing chance of knock.

are you running unleaded or leaded race gas? cause if its leaded it could of fried an O2. (just throwing it out there)

also on a 75 shot i would be running heat range 8 plugs (bkr8e) which is 2 steps colder. i ran into issues on a 75 with bkr7e which is 1 step colder.
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by hungryhip-ccp
hmmm, check bottle pressure, fuel pressure and see if your cat is getting clogged.

if your running catless and bottle pressure/temp is good then check fuel pump/pressure/filter.

i think zzp has there iat adders turned on still and if you hit high iat's like 158+ it pulls 5-8* timing.

like mentioned already you need to log it to seee what is going on. cause obviously something is up if you have ran 10+ bottles and now its happening.

the reason it would knock in third and not second is cyl pressure is higher in third increasing chance of knock.

are you running unleaded or leaded race gas? cause if its leaded it could of fried an O2. (just throwing it out there)

also on a 75 shot i would be running heat range 8 plugs (bkr8e) which is 2 steps colder. i ran into issues on a 75 with bkr7e which is 1 step colder.
Well i am catless....bottle pressure was at 1000psi....and i was running unleaded race gas.....also running 1 step colder pulgs. Gona log it with hp tuners this weekend and see whats up.
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