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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jester
The 6.1 is going to be offered in the regular one, but the 6.4 will be in the "super sport" challenger. I figured the Challenger is on the same platform as the SRT-8 so that it would have similar weight "4,000lbs". The Camaro weight was just an assumption because it is using the zeta platform , the same as the commodore, and that weighs around 3800lbs and it will more than likely have the ls3 out of the 08 vette that puts out 430hp since the ls2 is dead.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/2008-dodge-challenger.htm
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/04/21/t...r-super-stock/

The last is very impressive, but I dont see them selling that for the 30k that the price has been rumored to be, or having that traction setup. I could see them charging 30k for one with a 6.1 in it however.

And it looks like the Super sport and GT500 may have a rival after all
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=826
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=121028
An excerpt from the last article.
"The other reason the motorheads at GMPP built this beast is because the coming '09 Camaro will probably have an SS edition available, which will be powered by this same engine right off the showroom floor."

The final Camaro engines are purely speculation at this point, supercharged or LS7 either way im not sure I see it happening but who knows, GM is going to need a car to compete with the GT500 and Challenger Super Sport.

Everyone has their own opinions and thats how it should be, those are mine judging by the facts I have been reading these past two months.
Nice. I am obviously a Dodge guy, but the Camaro is where I think I'm heading. Won't be for a while I'm sure since the top level Camaro will probably fetch even more over sticker than the Shelby Mustangs are right now, and I will never pay over sticker for anything. Seems like EVERYONE wants one.
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 09:06 PM
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I am going camaro, but if a 500hp one comes out there is no way im going to be able to afford it, so il just get the LS3 version, unless the 500hp version is the ZL1 or something like that and the SS just has 10 more horse than the Z28 or something, then I would get the SS.
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 09:06 PM
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Thought some of you might enjoy this. Video for a song called "Weekend in LA" by Missing Pages. A local rock band...and I actually work @ B&N with the lead guitar player (skinny dude in a hat). From what I hear he practices 4 hours a day...

I know the dude in the costume, too. He's a local stand up comedian.

I knew he played guitar in a band, but I had no clue how good he was. I have no idea why he's still working there...I can def. imagine this song somewhere on the radio...

They filmed it on Mt. Washington and in Kennywood on New Years eve last year, or the year before. Took me a second to realize there was snow in Kennywood lol

http://www.kennywood.com/funzone/fun...gpages-pop.htm
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 09:21 PM
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Hey everyone that was at PRP when I ran my 15.0 last fall. You want to clear up this guys problem.
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...=1#post1219058
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 09:26 PM
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Jester are you anywhere around the moon area?
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 09:47 PM
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I have an apartment in hopewell and go to RMU. But not tonight, I will be in Ohio to take my girlfriends car back, since mine has to go into the bodyshop im using hers. I wont have a balt this week il be in an alero. But il be in the area monday thru thursday, but like I said before wont have a balt to drive.
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by GTP
Hey everyone that was at PRP when I ran my 15.0 last fall. You want to clear up this guys problem.
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...=1#post1219058
Backup provided.
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 09:50 PM
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Cool you ever been to wings suds and spuds?
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 09:52 PM
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nope but I go past it all the time.
Just FYI I have to get off here in like 10 min and wont be on til monday lol, so im not ditching ya, just will be done with work.
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jester
The 6.1 is going to be offered in the regular one, but the 6.4 will be in the "super sport" challenger. I figured the Challenger is on the same platform as the SRT-8 so that it would have similar weight "4,000lbs". The Camaro weight was just an assumption because it is using the zeta platform , the same as the commodore, and that weighs around 3800lbs and it will more than likely have the ls3 out of the 08 vette that puts out 430hp since the ls2 is dead.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/2008-dodge-challenger.htm
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/04/21/t...r-super-stock/

The last is very impressive, but I dont see them selling that for the 30k that the price has been rumored to be, or having that traction setup. I could see them charging 30k for one with a 6.1 in it however.

And it looks like the Super sport and GT500 may have a rival after all
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=826
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=121028
An excerpt from the last article.
"The other reason the motorheads at GMPP built this beast is because the coming '09 Camaro will probably have an SS edition available, which will be powered by this same engine right off the showroom floor."

The final Camaro engines are purely speculation at this point, supercharged or LS7 either way im not sure I see it happening but who knows, GM is going to need a car to compete with the GT500 and Challenger Super Sport.

Everyone has their own opinions and thats how it should be, those are mine judging by the facts I have been reading these past two months.
LS7 is only a 3 year run motor, since it is hand built. I don't forsee it going to mainstream production, its costly to make.

Originally Posted by jester
I am going camaro, but if a 500hp one comes out there is no way im going to be able to afford it, so il just get the LS3 version, unless the 500hp version is the ZL1 or something like that and the SS just has 10 more horse than the Z28 or something, then I would get the SS.
I got a weird feeling sales will dictate if the Camaro gets a 500+hp motor. Don't expect to see it below $48-50k though

With the absence of the LS2, it seems the L76 is filling the void, with the LS3 for more hipo applications.

We're also still a few years out, the Camaro could also receive the LSA (6.2L 580-600hp motor the new Cadillac CTS-V is rumored to receive, not the LS9, which is a 6.3L SC)

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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 10:28 PM
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www.rockauto.com has great prices on OEM replacement Raybestos Professional blanks. That's where I got mine from for about 1/2 of what GM charges.
Thanks, I'll check into that. I was going to take it to the dealer, but the more I think about it they'll probably just rip me off for the same rotors that are going to warp again. The suck part is going to be paying someone to put them on, because I really don't feel like doing it... Funny thing is, the pads apear to be hardly worn at all.
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 10:55 PM
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good to see everybody made it out to irwin tonight...

oh wait... no nevermind..

it was me, jay and brian...

and i heard that celica was there too... somewhere
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by PhantomGoat06
We're also still a few years out, the Camaro could also receive the LSA (6.2L 580-600hp motor the new Cadillac CTS-V is rumored to receive, not the LS9, which is a 6.3L SC)
I have heard that rumer as well
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 11:33 PM
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Awesome so Jester and Witt are around here, you guys want to meet up at Wings suds and spuds for some wings this week?

Striker
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jester
I have heard that rumer as well
I just have huge doubts the Camaro will get an LS9, since in history I honestly cannot think of one instance when the top of the line Camaro and the top of the line Corvette, shared the same motor.

the LSA seems to be more of a global/mass produced motor based off the current L92 (6.2L truck motor), with a revised bottom end, and intake/supercharger design. My money is on it, as the motor, if the Camaro see's past 500hp, not the LS9
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 11:05 AM
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Rofl, he is banned again.
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 12:18 PM
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anyone heading up the monroeville car show today at 2pm at the holiday inn on mosside blvd? ill be there...
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 01:38 PM
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so what the **** did phantom get banned for this time?, i did not see him do a single thing wrong
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 01:44 PM
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He said he doesn't know either, lol. Probably for making 2 account when he got banned first time around. They are ******* here.
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 01:50 PM
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^ Watch your mouth son. You are in the presence of GODS!
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 04:05 PM
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we will be at caste village tonight if any of you fgts want to come by
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 06:10 PM
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Thanks, I'll check into that. I was going to take it to the dealer, but the more I think about it they'll probably just rip me off for the same rotors that are going to warp again. The suck part is going to be paying someone to put them on, because I really don't feel like doing it... Funny thing is, the pads apear to be hardly worn at all.
MIke.... literally.... it takes about 25 minutes per side to do them... that's including jacking up the car and taking the wheel off and putting them back on.

It really is a piece of cake. I bought my Raybestos rotors @ Auto SUpermarket for the SS and it was 70 a pc... so I imagine the 2.2's rotors are much cheaper. My rear rotors are 48 each.


spend the few bucks @ sears and buy the brake pad compressor and it's a snap.
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 06:20 PM
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Hell, I could compress the calipers by hand.
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 08:51 PM
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Wow i missed alot this weekend....
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 09:06 PM
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We just need to make our own damn website for pittsburgh LSJ's and what not, you get banned for not using proper english on this damn site.
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