But when you look at these kind of cars, most people will not just drag race them in a straight line. Most will actually do some real racing.

 

You should really look into a story before you use it as proof...only pistonheads claimed cut slicks. But the actual interview was misunderstood. Edmunds was there the day the record was set and in response to people talking about cut slicks posted:

There's been some confusion over the tires used on the GT-R during its 7:38 lap of the Nurburgring. Various sources have reported that cut slicks were used. This is incorrect, and stems from a language barrier at a press conference during the GT-R's debut at the Tokyo Motor Show.

Senior GT-R development engineering staff on hand at the 'ring trip I attended confirmed that production-specification (including the tread compound) Bridestone RE070 tires were used on the 7:38 lap.

The three pre-production cars Nissan had on hand during the final Nurburgring trip were production-intent configuration. The strongest car of the three (within production variation) was selected to run the lap, with no "hotting up" done to fudge the result.

and my source: http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f165732

If you don't think GM did the same thing for selection of lap car your kidding yourself. Its within production variances.

It should also be noted the car ran on a damp track as it had rained on 2 sections. 7:38 on production tires on A DAMP TRACK...is quite an accomplishment.

All you guys saying it was on slicks and saying how the gtr is slow better go find that edit/delete button

Matt, Jay, Alicia...

It was production

 

so the guy no speaka da english then gave an interview?

 

nope.

 

Link for proof or shens...just cause you say so isnt valid reasoning for something....remember the gtos run richer cause of headers and the car goes into a freak out mode arguement?...lol know your source and what your talking about

 

the ariel has less mass than the GTR

 

Answer the question and give your source or admit your wrong and apologize

Don't try and change the subject

By nut swingers you must mean corvette ones...they seem to congregate here yet dont even own the cars

The 2.0G most likely refers to peak lateral acceleration g's acheived on the track...maybe you should take some of your own advice:

"I got a good feeling you have absolutely zero idea what a race compound tire does for performance.

These kindve conversations are too in depth for you man, stick with asking questions like "which headers makes me slower then *showroom stock*" or "How come slicks make me run just as fast as I did on street tires?""

 

hey well i guess they run 12.0-12.5 with high - LTFT's while commanding 14.7 from the factory eh?

 

Once...but judging from your results on them you have as much experience as I do...

The point was there is no freak out mode and you guys were just talking out your ass repeating what some "know it all tuner god" on your gto forums said without knowing wtf it meant.

 

i never said anything about a "freak out mode", maybe jay said that?

all i ever said was the car was running in the low to mid 12's after the headers...

 

this ******* blows. only intarwebz i have is my Wii. ******* grrrrrrrrrrrrr

 

Great...you had money to blow...your talking down to a college kid...clap clap clap...you are a true, real manly man

lol...and I care because...you don't own it now...you own a gto with around 3k in mods that is barely quicker then when it was stock...Im talking about your recent outing lol...you have all these great runs that you tell us about...but you never back em up at the track...

And slips and vids on the cobra run...or once again it didnt happen...with proof of you driving

Still waiting for you to admit to your error about the skyline.....

Bench King Racer? Last time we raced you stayed in my rearview the WHOLE time.

 

a 8 mph gain in trap speeds is not exactly "barely quicker"

 

LOL! Just cant let yesterdays conversation die can you?

 

 

The only thing you ever provide for all your claims is 1 or 2 passes in ur gto...but then u never back em up later on...thats y i call shens on everything you say...no matter what anyone has done you have always done it 1 or 2 years longer or have always done more then they have. 98% of the time you never have solid proof for the garbage that comes out of your mouth.

You were not able to pass him or me...I had a few cars on him. You had room to pass....but w/e.

add in your exhaust work, hpt, and drag radials and your over 3K...

8mph for 3k+ isnt really a deal...

A cam swap is ez...you didnt even get into any parts that require tq specs and stretch to yield parts...save maybe your crank pulley. If you manage to **** up a cam swap on a OHV v8 you need to /wrists. We can't all be perfect on our first try on everything...../sarcasm

Did you forget...GTO owners can never lose or be wrong.... /sarcasm

 

dan i think your ego wont let you admit you might be wrong...

sorry but an 8mph gain on an NA car is huge... you do understand there are 10 second N/A GTO trapping 123 right? or im sorry are their timeslips invalid on our forums and they are just full of **** too?

and his headers were 600, cam was 2 something, springs were another 300, hptuners cost him 200, the drag radials were free, and the exhaust work was 200...

sure adds up to 3000 right?

 

LOL the difference between myself and you guys is I can admit when I was wrong...you guys cant. You guys need to take a look in the mirror.

Drag radials arent free use their cost prob around 500...hpt cost more then 200 its 700 for what he bought and wideband is another 200...1500 right there add 600 for headers..2100, 200 for cam, 300 for springs 2600. 200 for exhaust and 2800...pretty close to 3000... using retail prices.

but then again I was just quoting off what he said it costs on the gto forums...

without data/proof you are just another person with an opinion. I didnt say your forums were full of **** (tho I feel the tuners kinda are) just that jay was. Like I said in the above post...no matter what you have done...jay always is 1 better...its funny actually...cause we know hes full of ****.

Show me where im wrong and I'll admit it...show one of you guys where your wrong at and you fight back without proof, change the subject, or start name calling.

And seriously...you call me a nutthugger...remove your self from jay's sack for a second and see who the real nut hugger is. I liked srt vehicles since they first came out in 2003. I only owned dodge/chrysler until I bought this car (and the only reason why I got this was it was 5k cheaper then a srt-4 at the time)...like I said before...know wtf your tallking about before you speak.

 

drag radials were leant to jay for free.. the hptuners was split by 3 people. so subtract from your total there....

and as i said, there are people running mid to high 10's with 120-125 trap speeds... N/A... so yes a 8mph gain is huge.

 

First off I never even doubted the trap speed. I said the ET...which is what is relevant since you guys always want to race from a dig anyway. .3 ET improvement for almost 3k is not impressive

All your trying to do is nitpick until I slip somewhere...sorry junior...it aint happening

 

haha excuse me? junior? lol

so exactly where are your ET's at for the 5+ thousand you have into yours.

and you do understand how MPH can indicate possible ET's right....

it was an 8mph gain. sorry not everybody wants to put a diesel turbo on their car, run 14's and blow a rod through the engine.

 

Is Et to MPH work like DA does to make imaginary times out of your real ones?

excuses: track was slick (2 guys on ls1gto set new PRs that day)
not speed shifting, bogging on a 1.9 60'
al being in the way

LOL i dont claim ETs...show me anywhere where I even hinted at dig racing! I dont brag results like jay promising me 11s next time he went to track with slcisk and went 12.5...or your guaranteed 12 sec passes with all ur mods and ur going slightly faster then a stock auto ls2.

But not a single one of you has come near me on the highway

and jays excuses that you suck at driving being the reason for your slow times when u drive a damn auto.

lol you have never even seen a car with an oil pan off i bet or even attempted to rebuild one...you have no room to talk...and with the car mess up...I admitted i fucked up

 

if you still are convinced DA has nothing to do with times, why dont you look at all the people that run at ATCO and cut .3 -.5 tenths off of their previous best...

and uhh yeah headers are usually good for only 20-25rwhp on a A4 LS2... `

well see who touches who on the highway in 2008...

and uhh about wrenching on cars... im not even going to go there

 

You guys use DA as an excuse and then convert to what your car "should" run

But you have headers, tune, no cats, and an exhaust and are .3 sec faster with 2 or 3 more mph...and you promised 12s....and we get 13.2s mixed with some 16s and 17s

Jay promises 11s and gets 12.5 and a 13.8 or w/e

LOL dont go blowing that paycheck bonus all in one spot.

lol the same guys doubting/ripping my motor skills (from my first motor build ever) and saying they know so much more are the ones who were begging me for tuning advice since they didnt really have a clue what was going on...And I was nice enough to help...

 

ok... you do understand... that .3 faster with 2 or 3 mph is a pretty good gain for 25hp AT THE MOST on a 4000lbs N/A car... this is what your not understanding...

and i have NEVER posted a "corrected time".. that is what ricers do... but it DOES effect cars... go to the rocky mountain thread and look at what some of the denver guys are running... or las vegas motorspeed way

im not questioning your tuning or hptuners skills, as i appreciate the help, but punching buttons != wrenching

and PLEASE dont talk to me about spending money... do you own any part or any parts on your car?