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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 08:55 AM
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Spherical Control Arm Bushings - Over The Top Performance
For this and other similar references, please be advised and note that Powell RaceShop do not supply parts to OTTP and has requested they cease using the Powell name. on their web site. We have also asked them on many occasions to remove all references to "made exclusively for OTTP by Powell RaceShop". This is not true.
Any parts that you do buy from OTTP may be copied from Powell parts.
Old Apr 23, 2011 | 09:03 AM
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What? People are running around on copies?
Old Apr 23, 2011 | 09:04 AM
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damnnn ... coming at em hard. haha
Old Apr 23, 2011 | 09:35 AM
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powell USE to supply ottp but for awhile now they have not been due to some issues. the only way to get the real deal is through powell himself.
Old Apr 23, 2011 | 10:19 AM
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It's pretty clear to me. What do you want the real deal or a knock off made who knows where?
Your choice Coke or a Cola beverage ')
Old Apr 23, 2011 | 10:29 AM
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It's pretty clear to me. What do you want the real deal or a knock off made who knows where?
Your choice Coke or a Cola beverage ')
just look on the site and you have your answer....cobalt owners...want the cheapest solution possible even if it hurts the car hahaha. they complain over 10 dollars in price difference.
Old Apr 23, 2011 | 08:21 PM
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I support John Powell
Old Apr 23, 2011 | 08:40 PM
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Powers all the way
Old Apr 23, 2011 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by whyyoumadson?
just look on the site and you have your answer....cobalt owners...want the cheapest solution possible even if it hurts the car hahaha. they complain over 10 dollars in price difference.
Yes, and if that's the way people want to be, that's their choice. HOWEVER - NO ONE has the right to sell knock offs using someone else's untarnished reputation in the community, which is EXACTLY what's going on here.
Old Apr 23, 2011 | 08:48 PM
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Powell FTW, accept no substitutes
Old Apr 23, 2011 | 08:55 PM
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much bigger feedback on gmsc.net
Old Apr 23, 2011 | 09:00 PM
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Powell ftw. Hands down.
Old Apr 23, 2011 | 09:00 PM
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It says designed not supplied lol
Old Apr 23, 2011 | 09:01 PM
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Ive never dealt with either. Though powell has been quick to respond to any questions I might have and has a lot of support/friendship among delta owners. And those few things say a lot about a guy.
Old Apr 23, 2011 | 09:01 PM
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What? People are running around on copies?
Everyone after him was a copy....
Old Apr 23, 2011 | 09:14 PM
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Yeah I learned over on the HHR SS forums that the rotated mounts Powell makes fits the HHR SS.
OTTP would never answer my question in there rotated mount sale thread whether they fit or not, which ended up being ok, I would rather get the real deal.
Old Apr 23, 2011 | 09:26 PM
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i posted this on the other board also

where does any of this have any business on a open forum....if there is a problem between 2 vendors that needs to be done privately...the he said she said of these forums are just stupid...i dont get into these topics offen but all the powell fan boys, were ottp fan boys not so long ago....everyone talked ♠♠♠♠ bout zzp, now half of those guys are fan boys of zzp...i have no problems with no one on these forums but, stuff like this is the reason why no one has ever took the cobalt community serious... everyone pits everyone against each other and nothing ever gets done to help the hole community..sorry for the rant but i've been around sence 05 and its just old...and does it really matter who asked to make what parts ..they were made...from powell and ottp...there business deal went south for whatever reason..
Old Apr 23, 2011 | 09:28 PM
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i posted this on the other board also

where does any of this have any business on a open forum....if there is a problem between 2 vendors that needs to be done privately...the he said she said of these forums are just stupid...i dont get into these topics offen but all the powell fan boys, were ottp fan boys not so long ago....everyone talked ♠♠♠♠ bout zzp, now half of those guys are fan boys of zzp...i have no problems with no one on these forums but, stuff like this is the reason why no one has ever took the cobalt community serious... everyone pits everyone against each other and nothing ever gets done to help the hole community..sorry for the rant but i've been around sence 05 and its just old...and does it really matter who asked to make what parts ..they were made...from powell and ottp...there business deal went south for whatever reason..
I think that is why he posted, he has tried to resolve the issue with OTTP, but OTTP continues to use his name on there products.
Old Apr 23, 2011 | 09:32 PM
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I like Powell and zzp but never liked ottp and never bought anything from them and haven't ever heard anything good about them mpx is also another good company and I like them and support them too
Old Apr 23, 2011 | 09:34 PM
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Powell said zzp mounts aren't even rotated lol
Old Apr 23, 2011 | 09:46 PM
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haha didnt know that but ive never bought anything from them myself but im plannin on the ic pipes and intake tube this summer
Old Apr 23, 2011 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SlowBalt_06
i posted this on the other board also

where does any of this have any business on a open forum....if there is a problem between 2 vendors that needs to be done privately...the he said she said of these forums are just stupid...i dont get into these topics offen but all the powell fan boys, were ottp fan boys not so long ago....everyone talked ♠♠♠♠ bout zzp, now half of those guys are fan boys of zzp...i have no problems with no one on these forums but, stuff like this is the reason why no one has ever took the cobalt community serious... everyone pits everyone against each other and nothing ever gets done to help the hole community..sorry for the rant but i've been around sence 05 and its just old...and does it really matter who asked to make what parts ..they were made...from powell and ottp...there business deal went south for whatever reason..
that's not true what-so-ever. In fact it's kind of the opposite.

When you let any company do anything they want, the community isn't advanced, it's just filled with BS and misinformed customers. that's why the cobalt market isn't anywhere.


when you allow debate, open feedback, and encourage technical discussions; the forum is advanced, the community is advanced, and the platform gets faster.


To address a misinformed point. ALL forums are drama and bickering. with consumers and vendors. highly advanced techinocal forums such as vette forums can be even worse than this one. In one debate a business got so angry he video'd his vette driving over planks to prove a competitor was lying about parts. Crazy stuff...
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In one debate a business got so angry he video'd his vette driving over planks to prove a competitor was lying about parts. Crazy stuff...
lol Video link?
Old Apr 24, 2011 | 01:23 AM
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I honestly have zero issue with ottp.

However John has earned my business. And thanks to his help and just who he is I will buy from him and recommend people to him.
Old Apr 24, 2011 | 01:33 AM
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its a simple issue to fix..... just take his name off the website and off the parts that he no longer sells to ottp and the issues squat. thats all he wants.



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