400whp 35r dyno vids and pics
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and why would you want more power? Well, when you throw some 24.5's on it and you want to shave some more tenths off, youll finally understand.
and what are you going to do about keeping the power on ground? no 252 isn't impressive but it's decent on 7 psi.. don't get all butt hurt because that turbo was still a shitty choice. even at 30 psi you would be able to get the same amount of HP on less boost and have an earlier spool.. unless you are looking to push 600+ whp, which is restarted considering 500 is enough to run 10's. I do know the turbo isn't working hard. but considering how much boost you have to throw at your car to get that WHP it's just stressing the engine more for no reason/ and there are a bunch of people in this thread WHO HAVE turboed their car that say it's a bad choice..
Last edited by DebadgedBALT77; Mar 15, 2010 at 11:59 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
its not that hard to drive a high HP car with out roasting the tires. think about it.
and why would you want more power? Well, when you throw some 24.5's on it and you want to shave some more tenths off, youll finally understand.
i think hes doing just fine with the 35r. but, unless he has plans to build the motor, i belive a 3076 would have been a much better choice. but im not saying hes in the worng with the 35R, i just dont know his build plans.
and why would you want more power? Well, when you throw some 24.5's on it and you want to shave some more tenths off, youll finally understand.
i think hes doing just fine with the 35r. but, unless he has plans to build the motor, i belive a 3076 would have been a much better choice. but im not saying hes in the worng with the 35R, i just dont know his build plans.
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i guess we need to know more of where hes going with the build before we can judge
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Ive ran the 35r on my old 1st gen and the car was great, I wasnt the working the turbo hard at all at 20psi i was making over 400whp...This is a totally different build so I cant compare my car to yours...I do think you should be making more then 400whp but I dont know the dyno or your set up 100% to give any advise. If this is how the car was staying, stock motor and all the turbo was a waste but just like me I dont think you have bought the 35r to stay on a stock motor, im sure the op has bigger plans for this turbo as I did on my build.
Good luck with the build and hope to see big numbers with this car!!!!
Good luck with the build and hope to see big numbers with this car!!!!
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I hate to be one to make comments because i try to not be a vendor to trash talk but, I feel like it is needed to step in on this one....
....First of all....I would challenge ANYONE to put a 50 trim on a stock LSJ motor and make over 400 whp....period the end. I hate to say it but some people that are unfamiliar with turbos/building turbo cars need to quit looking at turbo specs and seeing "cabable of 450 whp" and thinking anything you bolt that turbo on will make 450whp! MOSTLY ALL turbo's give you a range of C.I.D of engine it can go on, and most range from 1.8L-2.6L some 2.0L-3.0L so like i said, I would like to see a 50 trim make over 400whp on a stock LSJ.
Second...keep in mind where this build is heading... this car is FAR from being in its final stages, some people saying the turbo is a waste are way off base. Could the car make more power yes...will it ulimately make more..OF COURSE! but the build isnt done yet. He found a good deal on a great turbo and jumped on it... knowing plenty well that down the road once the engine is build it will be used to its full potential. Does this car make more power than MOST members cars on this forum...YES so im not sure why so many people seem to be hating.
The dyno here reads perfectly correct, not sure why we get so many complaints from members here, but have no complains from our 600, 700, or 800+ V8 customers. You think its because so many guys here tend to, lets say .....skew numbers????????? Sort of like because another company here made 400 whp with a twincharged car, that every twincharged car should make that, however did anyone take a look at the fact that they ran a hair of 30psi through that car with an AFR in the 12's with race fuel!?!?!?! does that seem like something anyone would want to try on their stock motor????
Point im trying to make is too many people here have seems to get jaded about what is a realistic number and what is a number that was just made once to be the highest powered car in the world under non-realistic conditions. I think if i left a customers car with a tune in it that was in the 12's, with tons of boost and a race gas tune in it and said here you go its safe as can be....i'd be out of business.
To conclude....this car made great power with what it has done to it and would wipe up alot of cars here. Is there area's for improvement of course....but isnt that the point of building a car in steps? otherwise if you did it all at once....there would be no fun to have down the road
Thanks for listening to my rant!
....First of all....I would challenge ANYONE to put a 50 trim on a stock LSJ motor and make over 400 whp....period the end. I hate to say it but some people that are unfamiliar with turbos/building turbo cars need to quit looking at turbo specs and seeing "cabable of 450 whp" and thinking anything you bolt that turbo on will make 450whp! MOSTLY ALL turbo's give you a range of C.I.D of engine it can go on, and most range from 1.8L-2.6L some 2.0L-3.0L so like i said, I would like to see a 50 trim make over 400whp on a stock LSJ.
Second...keep in mind where this build is heading... this car is FAR from being in its final stages, some people saying the turbo is a waste are way off base. Could the car make more power yes...will it ulimately make more..OF COURSE! but the build isnt done yet. He found a good deal on a great turbo and jumped on it... knowing plenty well that down the road once the engine is build it will be used to its full potential. Does this car make more power than MOST members cars on this forum...YES so im not sure why so many people seem to be hating.
The dyno here reads perfectly correct, not sure why we get so many complaints from members here, but have no complains from our 600, 700, or 800+ V8 customers. You think its because so many guys here tend to, lets say .....skew numbers????????? Sort of like because another company here made 400 whp with a twincharged car, that every twincharged car should make that, however did anyone take a look at the fact that they ran a hair of 30psi through that car with an AFR in the 12's with race fuel!?!?!?! does that seem like something anyone would want to try on their stock motor????
Point im trying to make is too many people here have seems to get jaded about what is a realistic number and what is a number that was just made once to be the highest powered car in the world under non-realistic conditions. I think if i left a customers car with a tune in it that was in the 12's, with tons of boost and a race gas tune in it and said here you go its safe as can be....i'd be out of business.
To conclude....this car made great power with what it has done to it and would wipe up alot of cars here. Is there area's for improvement of course....but isnt that the point of building a car in steps? otherwise if you did it all at once....there would be no fun to have down the road
Thanks for listening to my rant!
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honestly tho for the number of folks hating on this guy you would think at some point sooner someone would have made a post like smg's. but before you even get to that point, how about you say 'good job' or nothing at all. so you dont like his setup....so? i dont ever recall him asking you to. so instead of other members being able to jus read thru a thread about somebodies build they have to read thru an arguement/bash session.....grow up, seriously
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honestly tho for the number of folks hating on this guy you would think at some point sooner someone would have made a post like smg's. but before you even get to that point, how about you say 'good job' or nothing at all. so you dont like his setup....so? i dont ever recall him asking you to. so instead of other members being able to jus read thru a thread about somebodies build they have to read thru an arguement/bash session.....grow up, seriously
why that intake manifold is designed by saab specifically for turbocharged applications. i seriously doubt the hahn intake manifold flows nearly as well. the only bonus i see to the hahn is the plenum size which is a hair to big imo.
The hahn mani is nice but damn right, it most likely flows like ****. You can't just build one giant manifold with 4 runners expecting the flow to be good.
Now if someone made something that had true velocity stacks and flowed well i'd be impressed.
Now if someone made something that had true velocity stacks and flowed well i'd be impressed.
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Quoted for truth.
I hate to be one to make comments because i try to not be a vendor to trash talk but, I feel like it is needed to step in on this one....
....First of all....I would challenge ANYONE to put a 50 trim on a stock LSJ motor and make over 400 whp....period the end. I hate to say it but some people that are unfamiliar with turbos/building turbo cars need to quit looking at turbo specs and seeing "cabable of 450 whp" and thinking anything you bolt that turbo on will make 450whp! MOSTLY ALL turbo's give you a range of C.I.D of engine it can go on, and most range from 1.8L-2.6L some 2.0L-3.0L so like i said, I would like to see a 50 trim make over 400whp on a stock LSJ.
Second...keep in mind where this build is heading... this car is FAR from being in its final stages, some people saying the turbo is a waste are way off base. Could the car make more power yes...will it ulimately make more..OF COURSE! but the build isnt done yet. He found a good deal on a great turbo and jumped on it... knowing plenty well that down the road once the engine is build it will be used to its full potential. Does this car make more power than MOST members cars on this forum...YES so im not sure why so many people seem to be hating.
The dyno here reads perfectly correct, not sure why we get so many complaints from members here, but have no complains from our 600, 700, or 800+ V8 customers. You think its because so many guys here tend to, lets say .....skew numbers????????? Sort of like because another company here made 400 whp with a twincharged car, that every twincharged car should make that, however did anyone take a look at the fact that they ran a hair of 30psi through that car with an AFR in the 12's with race fuel!?!?!?! does that seem like something anyone would want to try on their stock motor????
Point im trying to make is too many people here have seems to get jaded about what is a realistic number and what is a number that was just made once to be the highest powered car in the world under non-realistic conditions. I think if i left a customers car with a tune in it that was in the 12's, with tons of boost and a race gas tune in it and said here you go its safe as can be....i'd be out of business.
To conclude....this car made great power with what it has done to it and would wipe up alot of cars here. Is there area's for improvement of course....but isnt that the point of building a car in steps? otherwise if you did it all at once....there would be no fun to have down the road
Thanks for listening to my rant!
....First of all....I would challenge ANYONE to put a 50 trim on a stock LSJ motor and make over 400 whp....period the end. I hate to say it but some people that are unfamiliar with turbos/building turbo cars need to quit looking at turbo specs and seeing "cabable of 450 whp" and thinking anything you bolt that turbo on will make 450whp! MOSTLY ALL turbo's give you a range of C.I.D of engine it can go on, and most range from 1.8L-2.6L some 2.0L-3.0L so like i said, I would like to see a 50 trim make over 400whp on a stock LSJ.
Second...keep in mind where this build is heading... this car is FAR from being in its final stages, some people saying the turbo is a waste are way off base. Could the car make more power yes...will it ulimately make more..OF COURSE! but the build isnt done yet. He found a good deal on a great turbo and jumped on it... knowing plenty well that down the road once the engine is build it will be used to its full potential. Does this car make more power than MOST members cars on this forum...YES so im not sure why so many people seem to be hating.
The dyno here reads perfectly correct, not sure why we get so many complaints from members here, but have no complains from our 600, 700, or 800+ V8 customers. You think its because so many guys here tend to, lets say .....skew numbers????????? Sort of like because another company here made 400 whp with a twincharged car, that every twincharged car should make that, however did anyone take a look at the fact that they ran a hair of 30psi through that car with an AFR in the 12's with race fuel!?!?!?! does that seem like something anyone would want to try on their stock motor????
Point im trying to make is too many people here have seems to get jaded about what is a realistic number and what is a number that was just made once to be the highest powered car in the world under non-realistic conditions. I think if i left a customers car with a tune in it that was in the 12's, with tons of boost and a race gas tune in it and said here you go its safe as can be....i'd be out of business.
To conclude....this car made great power with what it has done to it and would wipe up alot of cars here. Is there area's for improvement of course....but isnt that the point of building a car in steps? otherwise if you did it all at once....there would be no fun to have down the road
Thanks for listening to my rant!
well fine I'll apologize but he's never said how much power he's shooting for.. also SMG no one ever said anything about making over 400 whp on a 50 trim.. we said you could make more power on a better paired turbo
if he's going for crazy numbers then this is a great turbo for it
something I've wondered about .. have you guys looked at porting the saab intake manifold? I thought about getting it and doing something similar
also smg.. don't point fingers at other companies for skewing numbers.. they provide all more information then many other people on this forum and are usually pretty upfront with their numbers
and it doesn't matter if he's making more power or not.. people are voicing their concerns with that large of a turbo and his setup if he didn't want any criticism then don't post your **** he should've knowned after last time what was going to happen \
and no one is scared of real world numbers we're just saying his numbers seem low
if he's going for crazy numbers then this is a great turbo for it
something I've wondered about .. have you guys looked at porting the saab intake manifold? I thought about getting it and doing something similar
also smg.. don't point fingers at other companies for skewing numbers.. they provide all more information then many other people on this forum and are usually pretty upfront with their numbers
and it doesn't matter if he's making more power or not.. people are voicing their concerns with that large of a turbo and his setup if he didn't want any criticism then don't post your **** he should've knowned after last time what was going to happen \
and no one is scared of real world numbers we're just saying his numbers seem low
You would pick up HP by switching to a Sheetmetal intake, without a doubt. I'd bet on gains as much as 40whp. Our current COTM had a sheetmetal intake for sale not too long ago, iirc.
For a GT35R, you really aren't making all that much power. I don't know what you're doing wrong... but that is a large turbo that should easily have you around 500whp, not 400whp. ESPECIALLY, if you're pushing 25psi. That's friggin laughable, to be honest. What kind of A/R do you have on that thing? My little 50trim will make more than 410whp @ 25psi. And I'd put money on that. A large amount of money.
Not hating, just sayin'... you're doing something wrong.
If you are reaching full boost at 4500rpm on a GT30... something is wrong. We're not talking about 1st or 2nd gear either. In 3rd or 4th gear on a GT30... you should probably be hitting full boost around 3500rpm, I'd say. My shitty Journal Bearing 50trim hits full boost at like 3800.
For a GT35R, you really aren't making all that much power. I don't know what you're doing wrong... but that is a large turbo that should easily have you around 500whp, not 400whp. ESPECIALLY, if you're pushing 25psi. That's friggin laughable, to be honest. What kind of A/R do you have on that thing? My little 50trim will make more than 410whp @ 25psi. And I'd put money on that. A large amount of money.
Not hating, just sayin'... you're doing something wrong.
If you are reaching full boost at 4500rpm on a GT30... something is wrong. We're not talking about 1st or 2nd gear either. In 3rd or 4th gear on a GT30... you should probably be hitting full boost around 3500rpm, I'd say. My shitty Journal Bearing 50trim hits full boost at like 3800.
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Maxim, have you read into the heat disbursement coating used on other applications?
Wouldn't be a bad idea to try out on your intake manifold. Prob. only run you 100-150 dollars
Wouldn't be a bad idea to try out on your intake manifold. Prob. only run you 100-150 dollars
and 407 is not my highest number
