JBP Vortex header
Did I ever say I was concerned with flow? Don't think so. Just stated that I did see an drop in boost, which you could assume would be from increased exhaust flow. And yeah, I'm on a budget, so a $150 header was a good deal for me. Downpipe is coming next. I never said it flowed better than a "PROPER" header, so I don't even see why you decided to post in here. Go troll some other thread. I got it mainly for sound. Power will be coming in the next 1-3 years. Kthanxbai
I come into these threads and make these posts because I get sick of seeing people promoting products that are not good for these cars, based on what they think or "feel".
Your $150 would have been much better spent on a catless DP. Your car still would have been loud as hell and you would have free'd up a couple HP in the process...
Oh, and about the flow comment. When you mention it twice in 2 sentences, it's something that's on your mind....
Yeah I am happy with it. The flow has increased over stock, so I don't see why people try to claim this isn't an efficient header. May not be as good as a longtube (for obvious reasons), but it dropped my boost by 1.5 LBS, which means there's definitely an increase in flow. And it also sounds way better than any longtube ever will for a Cobalt.
If you're on a limited budget, you should be a lot smarter with the money that you're spending. You bought an $800 header for $150, do you think there may be a reason why it was sold for so cheap?
I come into these threads and make these posts because I get sick of seeing people promoting products that are not good for these cars, based on what they think or "feel".
Your $150 would have been much better spent on a catless DP. Your car still would have been loud as hell and you would have free'd up a couple HP in the process...
Oh, and about the flow comment. When you mention it twice in 2 sentences, it's something that's on your mind....
kthanxbai yourself a tri-pod for your camera.....
I come into these threads and make these posts because I get sick of seeing people promoting products that are not good for these cars, based on what they think or "feel".
Your $150 would have been much better spent on a catless DP. Your car still would have been loud as hell and you would have free'd up a couple HP in the process...
Oh, and about the flow comment. When you mention it twice in 2 sentences, it's something that's on your mind....
kthanxbai yourself a tri-pod for your camera.....
I'm not "promoting" this product. I'm not saying " HEY GUYS COME BUY THIS HEADER." I simply posted a video of how it sounds. If you don't like this header, then why did you even click on the link?
I have read over many threads about this header, and the general consensus is that if you are shooting for over 300 WHP, then this header isn't for you. Well, until I tear my motor apart and build it, I'm not going over 300 WHP, so this header will work till then. And by that time, my Cobalt will almost never be street driven.
And just because I mentioned flow doesn't mean I'm obsessed with it. I stated that simply because I have seen people stating that this restricts flow, and I clarified that it did not restrict my flow.
But go ahead and troll, because honestly, your just fueling my fire. My car will romp the **** out of 90% of the Cobalts on here in about 3-4 years. So let's see who's laughing then.
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Think it's a joke? I have a build planned to start when my loan is paid off.
Entire motor is being torn apart and nothing will remain stock. Talking bore, stroke, cams, springs, valves, ported head, machine work, etc. It will have at LEAST 400 WHP when I'm done with it.
Entire motor is being torn apart and nothing will remain stock. Talking bore, stroke, cams, springs, valves, ported head, machine work, etc. It will have at LEAST 400 WHP when I'm done with it.
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From: Land of Freedom
details on planned build?
idk maybe 400whp just doesnt sound impressive to me because i see them at the shop every time i go there. on 2.2 eco motors none the less. Parts are cheaper, that motor has been around longer, its easier to do. Slightly different motor, slightly different car. same goals = same results.
idk maybe 400whp just doesnt sound impressive to me because i see them at the shop every time i go there. on 2.2 eco motors none the less. Parts are cheaper, that motor has been around longer, its easier to do. Slightly different motor, slightly different car. same goals = same results.
lulz. says typical CSS douche.
Now I know why so many people hate on Cobalts. Got people like you that act like ******** for no apparent reason.
And no by that time this header will be gone. Will be a custom longtube header, way beyond any header that is on the market for cobalts right now. But I'm not getting into details now. But lets say that the 400 WHP will be a bare minimum.
Now I know why so many people hate on Cobalts. Got people like you that act like ******** for no apparent reason.
And no by that time this header will be gone. Will be a custom longtube header, way beyond any header that is on the market for cobalts right now. But I'm not getting into details now. But lets say that the 400 WHP will be a bare minimum.
you talk a whole lot of **** and are looking for unimpressive goals... if you were sayin you were looking fro 450+ whp out of that then ok but k
**** people have done 370 without all that work on a tvs ... custom longtube header beyond anything on the market.? yea ok bud i'll believe it when i see it..
we get it it's your car.. thats fine and dandy if you like it .. thats fine.. but common dont act like you're gonna outdo everyone on this site.. by the time you get to that 2-3 years from now .. 1/2 the cobalts on this site will be blown up or totaled lol
**** people have done 370 without all that work on a tvs ... custom longtube header beyond anything on the market.? yea ok bud i'll believe it when i see it..
we get it it's your car.. thats fine and dandy if you like it .. thats fine.. but common dont act like you're gonna outdo everyone on this site.. by the time you get to that 2-3 years from now .. 1/2 the cobalts on this site will be blown up or totaled lol
you talk a whole lot of **** and are looking for unimpressive goals... if you were sayin you were looking fro 450+ whp out of that then ok but k
**** people have done 370 without all that work on a tvs ... custom longtube header beyond anything on the market.? yea ok bud i'll believe it when i see it..
we get it it's your car.. thats fine and dandy if you like it .. thats fine.. but common dont act like you're gonna outdo everyone on this site.. by the time you get to that 2-3 years from now .. 1/2 the cobalts on this site will be blown up or totaled lol
**** people have done 370 without all that work on a tvs ... custom longtube header beyond anything on the market.? yea ok bud i'll believe it when i see it..
we get it it's your car.. thats fine and dandy if you like it .. thats fine.. but common dont act like you're gonna outdo everyone on this site.. by the time you get to that 2-3 years from now .. 1/2 the cobalts on this site will be blown up or totaled lol
Plans for the header are still being drawn up. Might get scrapped and go ZZP, since it is currently the best on the market, but dunno. But I honestly hope I can make this header work. Definitely doing 2" primaries, and a 3.25" collector.
And I honestly don't care about the "timeframe". Just because it'll be a late bloomer doesn't mean it won't be a sight to see. And I didn't say I was gonna outdo everybody, just stating a fact. It WILL be faster than the majority of Cobalts on this site. Keep in mind power isn't everything. It's also being able to hook up. This car is going to be completely built for racing soon. It will not be street legal.
Before I tell you that you're probably not going to ever flow enough to warrant 2 inch primaries and a 3.25 inch collector, I thought I might mention that the primaries would be best suited to 2 inch exhaust ports on the head, which is kinda borderline impossible with the LSJ head.
I'll just drop in a LOL on the thread.
JBP = Greatest bunch of Fail in history, even worse than the titanic.
Bunch of rip off artists, shitty parts, and a header that's been dyno proven to lose hp time and time again.
BTW don't go ripping on people trying to tell you the truth, I know your butt hurt about wasting money, but hell if you actually spent the time to read and research, you would know.
and about cobalts, 450whp is easy on a stock motor, just rip all the supercharger bullshit off, and go turbo. easy win.
JBP = Greatest bunch of Fail in history, even worse than the titanic.
Bunch of rip off artists, shitty parts, and a header that's been dyno proven to lose hp time and time again.
BTW don't go ripping on people trying to tell you the truth, I know your butt hurt about wasting money, but hell if you actually spent the time to read and research, you would know.
and about cobalts, 450whp is easy on a stock motor, just rip all the supercharger bullshit off, and go turbo. easy win.
I'll just drop in a LOL on the thread.
JBP = Greatest bunch of Fail in history, even worse than the titanic.
Bunch of rip off artists, shitty parts, and a header that's been dyno proven to lose hp time and time again.
BTW don't go ripping on people trying to tell you the truth, I know your butt hurt about wasting money, but hell if you actually spent the time to read and research, you would know.
and about cobalts, 450whp is easy on a stock motor, just rip all the supercharger bullshit off, and go turbo. easy win.
JBP = Greatest bunch of Fail in history, even worse than the titanic.
Bunch of rip off artists, shitty parts, and a header that's been dyno proven to lose hp time and time again.
BTW don't go ripping on people trying to tell you the truth, I know your butt hurt about wasting money, but hell if you actually spent the time to read and research, you would know.
and about cobalts, 450whp is easy on a stock motor, just rip all the supercharger bullshit off, and go turbo. easy win.
And I'm not going turbo, I'd rather stay S/C anyday. I prefer having instant power and torque. And I don't like taking the "easy way out".
Another thing, I really do love the whole "you have to mod your car exactly the same as everybody else" bullshit on this forum. Like I stated 3 times already, I bought this header for sound while it's still a DD. I'm not even going to push 300 WHP until it gets ripped apart.
And yeah, not butthurt at all, because I didn't waste my money. Once again, since you don't seem to be able to read, I'll state that I wasn't looking for much power out of this anyway. Just a better sound. My car was extremely raspy before, and the exhaust was so open that I had no low end torque. This help with the torque. I can actually get on it in low R's and feel it pull now, unlike before where no matter what, I would have to drop a gear to gain speed.
But I'm done wasting my time "explaining myself" to you ****. Hate all you want. I really don't care. I'll be doing my own thing, while you are sitting here like a D-bag on the forum trolling around.
lol you are a funny guy, and 3-4 years lol. I made more power 5 years ago with this car than you'll probably ever make. So be careful who you want to start arguments with,.
and you spent xxx amount of money on a header for sound? (insert ricer comment here) Doesn't matter if I read that or not before. Makes me remember why I put my car back to stock to use as a daily driver. No use trying to help people out these days.
and you spent xxx amount of money on a header for sound? (insert ricer comment here) Doesn't matter if I read that or not before. Makes me remember why I put my car back to stock to use as a daily driver. No use trying to help people out these days.
did plenty of research on this header there buddy. Like I posted before, it doesn't become restrictive until over 300 WHP.
And I'm not going turbo, I'd rather stay S/C anyday. I prefer having instant power and torque. And I don't like taking the "easy way out".
Another thing, I really do love the whole "you have to mod your car exactly the same as everybody else" bullshit on this forum. Like I stated 3 times already, I bought this header for sound while it's still a DD. I'm not even going to push 300 WHP until it gets ripped apart.
And yeah, not butthurt at all, because I didn't waste my money. Once again, since you don't seem to be able to read, I'll state that I wasn't looking for much power out of this anyway. Just a better sound. My car was extremely raspy before, and the exhaust was so open that I had no low end torque. This help with the torque. I can actually get on it in low R's and feel it pull now, unlike before where no matter what, I would have to drop a gear to gain speed.
But I'm done wasting my time "explaining myself" to you ****. Hate all you want. I really don't care. I'll be doing my own thing, while you are sitting here like a D-bag on the forum trolling around.
And I'm not going turbo, I'd rather stay S/C anyday. I prefer having instant power and torque. And I don't like taking the "easy way out".
Another thing, I really do love the whole "you have to mod your car exactly the same as everybody else" bullshit on this forum. Like I stated 3 times already, I bought this header for sound while it's still a DD. I'm not even going to push 300 WHP until it gets ripped apart.
And yeah, not butthurt at all, because I didn't waste my money. Once again, since you don't seem to be able to read, I'll state that I wasn't looking for much power out of this anyway. Just a better sound. My car was extremely raspy before, and the exhaust was so open that I had no low end torque. This help with the torque. I can actually get on it in low R's and feel it pull now, unlike before where no matter what, I would have to drop a gear to gain speed.
But I'm done wasting my time "explaining myself" to you ****. Hate all you want. I really don't care. I'll be doing my own thing, while you are sitting here like a D-bag on the forum trolling around.



