CoreySS07

I remember seeing this car at speedsport, Clean looking ride!

Brian MP5T

Thanks... Much has been improved since I was there...

Brian MP5T

Order Went out..

$4000.00

2.500:1 -1st
1.550:1 -2nd
1.100:1 -3rd
0.770:1 -4th
0.650:1 -5th


Upgrading to a GT30 72.6mm 56 Trim 0.60AR

Turbo is well suited for 2.0L Engines with a 300 - 500 HP Target. I have looked into how that will change the boost threshold and it Will make the car slightly "Late" in boost compared to the current turbo which is a GT28RS.

All that with the Upgraded Transmission, Huge Clutch and a car that is only 2280 Lbs... Awesome Summer Driving..

Currently the turbo Builds as of 2750 RPM and anything over 3000 is an immediate lag less climb into high boost. My math is saying that it will be 3050 RPM before it will build 1 psi, and 3500 ish to get the same lag less climb.

1BADSS/SC

the coolest thing Ive seen so far in here is that little black dude eating cheerios.....



why am I subscribed to this thread?

Brian MP5T

It's nice to see that the very simplest of minds are still easy to entertain..

1BADSS/SC

its nice to see you put something non boring in here to keep our attention spans active


but seriously how much money do you have invested in upgrades?

Brian MP5T

Probably $30,000 +

The car is a 2002 and I have been modifying it for years. Although it sounds like too much money... none of it is on Credit, Each mod is pre-meditated, planned and executed. It is a School as much as it is a hobby. The single most expensive modification will be the Transmission that is going in this spring.

The Plan is to participate in the Texas Mile for three days this October.

This Platform at 2280Lbs, with over 400WHP and 425Ft/Lb and a transmission that is geared to go 180MPH is going to be awesome.

This spring, the car should be almost untouchable in acceleration and speed.

1BADSS/SC

Those are pretty awesome numbers for such light weight. Im assuming u stripped the interior out and did a bunch of other stuff to it to get it that way? How about drag racing and auto-x u going to do that too?

I hear you about being excited with the transmission. I cant wait to build mine. I just found this for my car the other day and I about fell out of my chair considering the same product from AMS is like 3k:

https://secure.buschurracing.com/cat...8fb1b649e2b22c

Brian MP5T

Auto-X is not really a thing that this will be competitive at.. The Gearing is very very high, the turbo will spool at 3500 and because of the level of modifications, I will be in the highest class against cars that are 100% built to take cones...

1/4 mile Drag should not be a problem, once again the gearing isn't ideal for 1/4 mile, Full mile racing is where this car will truly destroy.

The weight reduction is easy, The car lacks a heater, AC, Power Steering, Front and Rear Wipers, Removed all Stereo, Any Noise reducing material, Carbon Hood (Painted White), Removed all Safety Equipment (Jack Spare) No Rear Seat belts, Removed Fogs, 11Lb Battery, Aluminum Alternator, 6.8 Lb Flywheel, No SRS,

On that link, That is replacing components, Have you thought about getting a taller 1st Gear and extending 2nd. I know that the SS has a useless 1st gear for anything other than taking Granny to the Doctor..

1BADSS/SC

yea under one of the options I really want a taller first. The stock gearing in this car is very aggressive and not really ideal for cruising at all. Take a look at the stock gearing:

Stock Final Drive Ratio: 4.529

Gearing VIII/5 - IX GSR- IX MR

1st Gear 2.928 - 2.785 - 2.909
2nd Gear 1.950 - 1.950 - 1.944
3rd Gear 1.407 - 1.444 - 1.434
4th Gear 1.031 - 1.096 - 1.100
5th Gear 0.720 - 0.761 - 0.868
6th Gear -.--- - -.--- - 0.693


Speed with stock final drive, 7500 RPM:

------------ 4th --- 5th --- 6th gear
VIII 5speed: 121.7 - 174.3 - n/a
IX GSR 5spd: 114.5 - 164.9 - n/a
IX MR 6spd.: 114.1 - 144.6 - 181.1


Speed with stock final drive, 8000 RPM:

------------ 4th --- 5th --- 6th gear
VIII 5speed: 129.8 - 185.9 - n/a
IX GSR 5spd: 122.1 - 175.9 - n/a
IX MR 6spd.: 121.7 - 154.2 - 193.2

1st is only good for about 30 mph at 7500 rpms. 2nd 3rd and 4th are all used in the top of the 1/4 mile as well with 4th running out at the end. Its not really good cruising down the highway at 70 with the rpms pegged at around 4k in 5th gear in a car thats AWD and consumes gas more so than a normal turbo 4 banger.

With these options though I can extend 1st, 4th, and 5th which are all gears that need to be lengthend in my opinion. A longer 1st would help out a great deal in the 1/4 mile by making it easier for me to transition from 1st - 2nd. A longer 4th and 5th would help out with highway pulls and general cruising.

Perfect.disguise

The weight I looked up was 2749 plus the weight of a full turbo kit, lets say 2850lbs. Mine is 2880lbs stock...what did you remove to get to 2280lbs?..

1BADSS/SC

he already answered this. Look above.

Also this ISNT a cobalt hes driving. He has a mazda.

Perfect.disguise

Figured there wold be more than that for a 550lb + weightloss..
I know his car is as much of a Cobalt as mine is.

2.2balt

No front wipers? LoL. If you drive it in the rain I guess you use a lot of Rain-X/Aquapel? lol

Where in Ontario are you, if you don't mind me asking. Always cool to see others from here on here. lol

1BADSS/SC

The mp5 starts at 2494 lbs curb weight. Seems very reasonable that he dropped down 200 lbs based on what he has listed for weight loss.

what do u drive?

Perfect.disguise

2003 Mazda Protege5 Specifications - View New Mazda Protege5 2003 Specs & Data at InternetAutoGuide.com
2745

2003 Mazda Protege5 Specifications, Data, and Car Specs at Autobuyguide.com
2749

2003 Mazda Protege5 Base Wagon 2.0L 4-cyl. 5-speed Manual Features and Specs
2716

Add that in with a full turbo kit..

1BADSS/SC

2002 Mazda Protege Technical Specifications - Consumer Guide Automotive

2002 Mazda Protege - Specifications

2002 Mazda Protege5 Specifications and Standard Equipment at carmax.com

In case u didnt notice, there is quite a range of weights. Also the 2700 lb weights are based on an AUTOMATIC transmission which typically weighs 100-200 lbs more than a manual which is what he has.

Either way, his car was no where near 2800+ lbs from the factory

and u still didnt tell me what car u drive.

Perfect.disguise

Link 1. Click on Available styles, MP5 isn't one so those weights aren't for the MP5.
Link 2. Same as above
link 3. Link says auto 2716..

Here is a link saying the 5spd weight the same.
2003 Mazda Protege5 Base Wagon 2.0L 4-cyl. 5-speed Manual Features and Specs

I never said it weighted 2800lbs from the factory. Did they come turbo from the factory? A full turbo kit isn't weightless.


As fas as my car I figured you would know what PVO stands for having a CSRT before.

1BADSS/SC

I guess the only way to settle this is to see whats on his title or to know what his car weighed at the track because it seems to me these sites post what they want in terms of info.

And turbo kits weigh virtually nothing lol. Unless he has a turbine from a boeing under the hood lmao.

PVO not sure what that is. I know of Realtune and PTP, but no one likes PTP lol.

Perfect.disguise

PVO was renamed to "Street and Racing Technology" SRT. I drive a Skittle.

1BADSS/SC

ok so I just read up on it. PVO is chryslers performance division that combined with mopar and the viper development team to release all performance variant models of dodge, jeep, and chrysler.

Perfect.disguise

"Street & Racing Technology (commonly called SRT) is a high-performance automobile group within Chrysler LLC. SRT began as "Team Viper" to develop the Dodge Viper. It later merged with "Team Prowler", the developers of the Plymouth Prowler, to become Specialty Vehicle Engineering (SVE). This was renamed Performance Vehicle Operations (PVO). Since all PVO vehicles used the SRT name, it was decided in 2004 to use that name for the development group as well. SRT produces vehicles for the Chrysler, Dodge and Jeep Vehicles."

Brian MP5T

Ok A Bit More Detail...

-The car lacks a heater including all ducts flaps, Heater Core, Blower Motor and additional hoses that connected the heater to the engine, The HVAC is literally Bare behind lacking all Cables and Dials.

-AC system including the Compressor, Condenser / Collector, plus all high pressure hoses, control modules and second Fan which was 14 Lbs (******* Blew My Mind How heavy the stock fans are).

-Main rad fan was replaced with a single FAL Flexlite Fan.

-Power Steering to include the Power Steering Pump, Reservoir Hoses. The PS Rack was replaced with a standard manual Pinion Style which is 46Lbs Lighter for just that part.

-Front and Rear Wipers to include the switches, both electric motors and wiper arms. Also, the Blue Water Reservoir 5.3L, (Water is 1Kg/L)

-Removed all Stereo, to include the 4 Door Speakers, Deck.

-Cruise Control System Complete

-Fuel Return System streamlined (Evap system, Control Module and Canister)

-Removed 5 Key less Entry Motors and Control Modules

-Any Noise reducing material, To include the firewall, Driver and Passenger Floor, Inside 4 Doors, Inside the Trunk Floor and Rear Door.

-Carbon Hood (Painted White), Which replaced a Steel Hood and Gas Shocks.

-Removed all useless Safety Equipment (Jack/Spare tire)

-No Rear Seat belts, Rear Seat "Flip" assembly was modified and seat bottoms are literally just held in place wit a bolt.

-The Stock Fuel tank was removed, cut and re welded 1/4 Smaller (Removed some of left side to balance weight on front tires)

-The Engine was relocated 1" to the right and new drive shafts were made (To Balance the weight on the front tires with me in the car)

-Removed Glass Fogs,

-Installed 11Lb Battery,

-Aluminum Alternator with aluminum pulley,

-6.8 Lb Flywheel,

-No SRS either side.

-The Stock Buckets were replaced with SPARCO Torino seats with Aluminum mounting brackets that were made for the car.




I would like to point out that adding a turbo to a car with EVERYTHING.. Is less than the weight I got rid of with the Battery ALONE..

The best thing about the internet is that I suppose some of you find it hard to believe that the weight of the car is 2280Lbs. I don't really have to worry too much about that. I don't need to prove anything. I am the only person that this would effect (Unless you were trying to race MP5T on a road course). We have a scrap metal yard near by that has an industrial scale that is accurate to +/- 5 Lbs (According to the Government certification that is done every Spring after the snow is gone)

The Point is WHO CARES... It is 2280 Lbs with a 1/4 tank and no occupant as per the last 2 times I had the car weighed.. Even if it was still 2700 or 3400 LBS... The car with that turbo and that transmission is going to be ******* RETARDED to drive.

Ottawa and yes, Rain-X +50 Km/h is Clear Windows... We can meet up if you want to see it..

1BADSS/SC

The Chrysler Performance Vehicles Operations team (PVO team)

The PVO team is similar to Ford's Special Vehicles Teams, Mercedes' AMG, BMW's M team, and the Shelby Dodge team. Dodge PVO vehicles will be called SRTs, while Chrysler and Jeep versions will be introduced with presumably different labels. The team has already designed a Neon SRT-4, Viper SRT-10, Ram SRT-10, and is reportedly working on a Stratus SRT-6. The Viper and Neon have been introduced.

Chrysler writes that:

Compared with Dodge's R/T credo of "contemporary interpretations of performance," SRT will come to stand for "ultimate interpretations of performance."

PVO performance models engineered for the Dodge brand will carry the SRT badge. Chrysler and Jeep performance lines will be announced in the future.

The Dodge SRT performance signature includes high-output engine performance, sport suspensions, fully functional aerodynamic packages, higher performance wheel and tire packages, sporty interiors and performance-oriented exhausts and brake systems.

PVO New Chrysler Group For Specialty Vehicles Formed

AUBURN HILLS, Mich., Jan. 8 -- While Dodge owners have been busy grabbing life by the horns, Chrysler Group executives and engineers have been grabbing life by the throttle with plans to create a new performance group and some of the most outrageous production vehicles ever developed by DaimlerChrysler Corp.

Officially known as Performance Vehicle Operations (PVO), the new engineering team combines Chrysler Group's specialty vehicle and motorsports know-how, much like the profitable high-end vehicle conversion group at Mercedes-AMG.

``No other automaker has leveraged such resources to this extent,'' said Jim Schroer, Executive Vice President, DaimlerChrysler Corp. Sales and Marketing. ``We are combining our extensive motorsports experience, along with our legendary Viper development team and our Mopar Performance Parts, to create a line of extreme performance vehicles that will blow past everyone else.''

``PVO brings together the best performance development processes, durable high-performance parts and some of our most talented and experienced motorsports and performance car engineers to produce truly exciting cars and trucks,'' added Schroer.

The PVO Philosophy

Performance Vehicle Operations will become a profit center within the Chrysler Group focusing on enhancing Dodge, Jeep® and Chrysler brand product lines and image through high-end, limited-volume specialty vehicles.

Chrysler Group executives see an opportunity to expand the Chrysler Group's portfolio of specialty vehicles, performance models and performance parts.

But in an effort to differentiate the PVO-engineered lines from their super-premium Mercedes-Benz AMG counterparts, the Chrysler Group is committed to a balance of value and performance in line with its popular Jeep, Chrysler and Dodge brands.

PVO performance models engineered for the Dodge brand will carry the SRT badge. While Chrysler and Jeep performance lines will be announced in the future, Dodge SRT models are already being prepared for retail sale, beginning with the newly renamed 2003 Dodge Viper SRT-10, available in Fall 2002. With today's announcement, Viper officially becomes a member of the SRT family.

For Dodge, the SRT model-line philosophy represents a new twist, offering significant performance enhancements and a visual appeal. But as compared with Dodge's R/T credo of ``contemporary interpretations of performance,'' SRT will come to stand for ``ultimate interpretations of performance.''

Brian MP5T

Can we stop ******* up my thread with MOPAR ****?