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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 10:26 PM
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boosted- Unneeded the issue was resolved and so that was un needed... mod even said keep this going without the arguement... your just provoking...


drew- are you stripping your photo of its exif? if you dont do that we might be able to help you more...
Old Apr 28, 2009 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by boosted4dr
Though I would try for more lighting when getting the flower shots, and its actually a somewhat sad photo...One lone flower all alone, the first shot has lots of shadows on the left side, the 2nd shot looks better imo.

But hey..I mainly just take photos of my coin collection lol

Bi-Metal .24oz Gold .24oz Platinum
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This is nearly worth 50% of a 09 Cobalt SS

[IMG]http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r23/grometsc/Coin/1b72_1.jpg

Need to get this set out of the bank so I can get some close-ups now that I have a finally figured out a good lighting/work bench for shooting the images.
edited to your first part of your post. that was not needed. lets just move on here.
Old Apr 28, 2009 | 10:28 PM
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Do I sound like a broken record? Topic pls.

edit: do WE sound like a broken record?
Old Apr 28, 2009 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Erod
Do I sound like a broken record? Topic pls.

edit: do WE sound like a broken record?
you on the clock?
Old Apr 28, 2009 | 10:31 PM
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^^rofl...
Old Apr 28, 2009 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by sick06cobalt
boosted- Unneeded the issue was resolved and so that was un needed... mod even said keep this going without the arguement... your just provoking...


drew- are you stripping your photo of its exif? if you dont do that we might be able to help you more...
Yeah I need to get a flickr account, I just upload to picasa and post from there.
I can just link to the albums henceforth they have all the data

http://picasaweb.google.com/drewbroo...eat=directlink
Old Apr 28, 2009 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sick06cobalt
boosted- Unneeded the issue was resolved and so that was un needed... mod even said keep this going without the arguement... your just provoking...


drew- are you stripping your photo of its exif? if you dont do that we might be able to help you more...
Not needed maybe...



This was "awesome photo"



This is underexpose and lacks contrast!

Explain?
Old Apr 28, 2009 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DC52NV
you on the clock?
whoops! lulz
Old Apr 28, 2009 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by boosted4dr
Not needed maybe...



This was "awesome photo"



This is underexpose and lacks contrast!

Explain?
end it boosted.. but since you asked...

notice the histogram.. it is under exposed and there is no blacks in it at all... but now that i look at it again it is alittle soft...






I never said the photo had bad timing or anything it was a great shot.. many of the plane shots are nicely timed.. just underexposed... and lack contrast.
Old Apr 28, 2009 | 10:56 PM
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Ok not to start another argument but this is my point illuminated PERFECTLY. Yes..the shot COULD be better...but you offer NO INSIGHT as to HOW!!!!






Ok so according to the histogram it is underexposed....Histograms and proper exposure don't make great photos, but that is a discussion for another time.

Instead of showing a lightroom histogram...offer the guy some CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. I couldn't see the EXIF data but if we asked the OP im sure he/she could provide it. How about you explain that he should experiment with a higher ISO or a larger aperture next time.


Ok so it lacks a little contrast....You know it is a grey plane.....against a....grey.....sky.... But we can't change that...so why not offer the OP some advice on how to add some contrast during post proccessing, or ask if he shoots in raw or jpeg so we know what is going on with the shot.


Ok maybe it is a little soft....again....advice? None given...just (IMHO) an arrogant response.
Next time try a faster shutter speed, but since the *histogram* already decided it was underexposed that isnt really an option....
How about trying a monopod next time so you could steady yourself while panning and following the plane....You know it WAS travelling about 760mph when the shot was taken. All things considered it is still a good shot for an amateur.


Just offer something other than an opinion....even if it isnt always correct. It comes across less high-and-mighty.
Old Apr 28, 2009 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Kodatech
Ok not to start another argument but this is my point illuminated PERFECTLY. Yes..the shot COULD be better...but you offer NO INSIGHT as to HOW!!!!






Ok so according to the histogram it is underexposed....Histograms and proper exposure don't make great photos, but that is a discussion for another time.

Instead of showing a lightroom histogram...offer the guy some CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. I couldn't see the EXIF data but if we asked the OP im sure he/she could provide it. How about you explain that he should experiment with a higher ISO or a larger aperture next time.


Ok so it lacks a little contrast....You know it is a grey plane.....against a....grey.....sky.... But we can't change that...so why not offer the OP some advice on how to add some contrast during post proccessing, or ask if he shoots in raw or jpeg so we know what is going on with the shot.


Ok maybe it is a little soft....again....advice? None given...just (IMHO) an arrogant response.
Next time try a faster shutter speed, but since the *histogram* already decided it was underexposed that isnt really an option....
How about trying a monopod next time so you could steady yourself while panning and following the plane....You know it WAS travelling about 760mph when the shot was taken. All things considered it is still a good shot for an amateur.


Just offer something other than an opinion....even if it isnt always correct. It comes across less high-and-mighty.
you know if you just ask him nicely to elaborate he will. He's helped me out a lot!
Old Apr 28, 2009 | 11:30 PM
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oh good god guys.


there is a very quick edit of the one plane photograph.

when it is overcated if you have not adjusted your saturation and you have modified your exposure correctly you will get an underexposed and desaturated image.

You can easily fix it with a curve/levels adjustment and a vibrance/saturation adujustment.

If you are ever taking pictures with an overcast in the background or if its pretty dreary looking out you typically have to bump the saturation in the camera or adjust that after words.

Please calm down people if you do not want constructive criticism then when you post your pictures just let people know that is perfectly fine. If you dont then we expect you can take criticism in the right way.
Old Apr 29, 2009 | 12:06 AM
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new pic using my tripod lol:
and a little photoshop

any suggestions?
Old Apr 29, 2009 | 12:08 AM
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not bad V... I would clone out the truck in the background..
Old Apr 29, 2009 | 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by sick06cobalt
not bad V... I would clone out the truck in the background..
I would just crop the image more, the subject has enough in and out of focus to catch a viewers eye, the rest seems out of place.
Old Apr 29, 2009 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by OniMirage
I would just crop the image more, the subject has enough in and out of focus to catch a viewers eye, the rest seems out of place.
this could also be done.. good suggestion.
Old Apr 29, 2009 | 12:57 AM
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image increased to 300dpi bicubic smooth > expanded to 32bit > local adaptation adjustment to 16bit > curves and shadow adjustment > reduce noise > smart sharpen > image size rounded down to 100dpi bicubic sharp > convert to 8bit

you can't really judge an image by the histogram it's simply a tool that allows you to see where adjustment can or should be made and shows if clipping has occurred.
Old Apr 29, 2009 | 01:11 AM
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since were all doing it, here's my attempt lol

Old Apr 29, 2009 | 08:29 AM
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 08:30 AM
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Wow guys, picture looks awesome thanks for the help, maybe I need to hop on my wifes fancy computer and go through all my pictures and see what adjustments I can make in photoshop.
Old Apr 29, 2009 | 08:43 AM
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Wow guys, picture looks awesome thanks for the help, maybe I need to hop on my wifes fancy computer and go through all my pictures and see what adjustments I can make in photoshop.
Photoshop is good, but get your hands on a copy of Adobe Lightroom it rocks!
Old Apr 29, 2009 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 07LaserBlueSS
Photoshop is good, but get your hands on a copy of Adobe Lightroom it rocks!
LR + PS=gold....
Old Apr 29, 2009 | 09:17 AM
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I may try it out, if I can find a version off of ebay.
Old Apr 29, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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I would say with CS4 you can do almost everything that you can do in lightroom. Lightroom is nicer however because of the organization it has.
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