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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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this shall be my next mod...

jackson racing supercharger for my rsx type s...9 psi hopefully with an aftecooler...looking for 320whp with a simple street tune...i guess thats enough power even though a gt35r could pop 350whp easy

http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....0-3740D3FCCE08

http://media.putfile.com/11psi-RSX-vs-85psi-RSX

http://upload3.putfile.com/videos/36410255339.wmv

http://videos.streetfire.net/player....1-030CFCEAFC04

they sound different than the cobalt ss even though they use the same charger...

how does the cobalts clutch hold up? how are the shifts?
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 08:40 PM
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they sound different than the cobalt ss even though they use the same charger...

I don't that is quite exactally the same supercharger there buddy.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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nice. was thinking about force feeding mine but decided to stay N/A. next car i get will be F/I though.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 09:15 PM
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sweet!!! i wish they made a JRSC for my car. i would definitely buy it!
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 04:57 AM
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we have Eaton blowers, not Jackson racing, nice RSX's in the vids tho
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 06:26 AM
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yea, but ripp sds is the only company that makes a supercharger for my car and it's a vortec. i was just trying to say that if Jackson Racing made a eaton for my car, it would be bad ass!
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 09:15 AM
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I think after stage 2 we will have a little more of a louder whine than now.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 09:46 AM
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we have Eaton blowers, not Jackson racing, nice RSX's in the vids tho
Jackson Racing uses an Eaton M62 on the rsx...so does Comptech...Eaton is pretty much the only person that makes a roots style supercharger...and if i recall the ss uses the M62
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by fifasf
I think after stage 2 we will have a little more of a louder whine than now.
arent you guys almost maxing out the blower stock? i thought stage 2 would be like 11 to 12 psi and then an ecu upgrade to compensate...
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 09:50 AM
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I don't that is quite exactally the same supercharger there buddy.
M62...yah...its the same blower...
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 09:51 AM
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THE RSX sounds different due to the extra 2000 RPM
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 09:51 AM
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rsx's are maxing the blower out at around 12psi with a ep3 ps swap....now with ips ksc cams the boost drops because of the efficiency...stock cobalts may read like 15 psi on the gauge but add a header, exhaust, and intake and you'll see a dramatic drop
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by FastFrontier17
M62...yah...its the same blower...
What I was saying is that it isn't exactally like ours. There must be other things done to that blower.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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hehehehe
1) we use a eaton m62 charger (different)
2) to get to 350whp in that car you will have to do more than just the s/c ...... you know that right?
3) if you got the cash ........ go for it it would be an awsome car as long as you do it right
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by FastFrontier17
jackson racing supercharger for my rsx type s...9 psi hopefully with an aftecooler...looking for 320whp with a simple street tune...i guess thats enough power even though a gt35r could pop 350whp easy

http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....0-3740D3FCCE08

http://media.putfile.com/11psi-RSX-vs-85psi-RSX

http://upload3.putfile.com/videos/36410255339.wmv

http://videos.streetfire.net/player....1-030CFCEAFC04

they sound different than the cobalt ss even though they use the same charger...

how does the cobalts clutch hold up? how are the shifts?
i can vouch that these kits are quick....when i was stock i raced one at the track and i got owned by about 2-3 car lenghts....though it was my first time at the track he said he was still putting about 270 to the wheels so ya i got worked lol
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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but the HUGE question what would your TQ be? 350 hp with only ~ 180 TQ wont get you very fast
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by pclear9061
but the HUGE question what would your TQ be? 350 hp with only ~ 180 TQ wont get you very fast
lol yeah thats true
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mercury
What I was saying is that it isn't exactally like ours. There must be other things done to that blower.
well all the noise you hear is coming from the charger itself...and it being a M62 its the same blower as the SS...the only thing that differs is the throttle body and snout
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 04:13 PM
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but the HUGE question what would your TQ be? 350 hp with only ~ 180 TQ wont get you very fast
the charger doesnt make that much torque as a decently sized turbo would but its still plenty nuff...

350 supercharged hp would have torque in the 220's...

for example...a R6...600cc's fuel injected makes around 102 hp...and only 50 or so foot lbs..its lack of torque is compensated by the fact that its able to build hp up to 14,000 rpms...like the rsx....most often sc'd runs an 8600-8800 rpm redline
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by pclear9061
hehehehe
1) we use a eaton m62 charger (different)
2) to get to 350whp in that car you will have to do more than just the s/c ...... you know that right?
3) if you got the cash ........ go for it it would be an awsome car as long as you do it right
you use the same charger as the one in the vids....all the bolt-ons...+ IPS KSC cams + the M62 yields about 343 on 91...about 339 hp was made on 91 with the aftecooler and type r cams(not good for boost at all)....no one has yet put them both together, but they key to power is to cool the boost...the ss and redline have a laminova aftercooler to chill the boost...the rsx has no method to cool its sc'd boost...id say an addition 20-30 hp would be gained by combining the aftercooler with the cams...i believe the below hp is corrected to whp...not sure though
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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i can vouch that these kits are quick....when i was stock i raced one at the track and i got owned by about 2-3 car lenghts....though it was my first time at the track he said he was still putting about 270 to the wheels so ya i got worked lol
first srt-4 to agree that FI rsx's are quick...most of the **** at SRT-4mation.com are butt hurt about it
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 04:44 PM
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but you were saying that rsx's are maxing at 12 psi when the ss/sc / RL can max ~20-22 psi
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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but you were saying that rsx's are maxing at 12 psi when the ss/sc / RL can max ~20-22 psi
really?

The Saturn Ion RedLine (RL) features the 2.0L Supercharged ECOTEC (LSJ) motor. The supercharger is the latest generation Eaton M62 helical roots style positive displacement supercharger and offers a maximum of 12 psi of manifold pressure for a 40% increase in power. The latest generation offers a more efficient low-end power and improved durability from a more precision made zero-contact assembly. Also the supercharger is configured with an internal bypass valve to lower off power loads resulting in less power used and higher MPG ratings when cruising. The intake manifold that the supercharger is mated to is an all aluminum port matched intake manifold with an internal water-to-air Laminova heat exchanger intercooler. This style of heat exchanger is more efficient than even that of a bar and plate intercooler and offers more compact packaging. When the whole package is configured together and controlled with a high speed PCM it produces 200 HP and 200 lb-ft TQ for a very solid and reliable powertrain package.

As is the case in every consumer’s quest for “more power” the common ideology is that the more air you can stuff in a motor the more power you will get out of it. This is a solid way of thinking as long as it’s adhered to with attention to both the needs of the air (oxygen) and the needs of a combustible (fuel). Other factors contribute to the whole process like spark and it’s timing, but for simplicity sake focus will be directed to just air and fuel (mixture). In the case of the RL the fuel needs are addressed 100% by the PCM and sensor input based on the mass of airflow entering the engine. The M62 supercharger based on the relationship of the engine rpm and rotor speed addresses the air needs of the motor. This leads individuals to assume that by spinning the supercharger faster that it will also increase the air entering the motor and by ideology make more power. This assumption is inaccurate and will only lead to a loss in power, and increase in heat and drastically reduced supercharger and engine life.
ive heard of some cobalts getting 15psi readings but that is mostly due to the restriction of the stock exhaust, mani, and intake...20 psi sound impossible for the m62...the m90 on the other hand is capable...but GM uses the M90 mostly on their 3.8 v6
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 05:15 PM
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ive heard of some cobalts getting 15psi readings but that is mostly due to the restriction of the stock exhaust, mani, and intake...20 psi sound impossible for the m62...the m90 on the other hand is capable...but GM uses the M90 mostly on their 3.8 v6
you also have to understand that the boost drops down with less restriction...the rsx all stock with an 11 psi pulley could reach 15 on the gauge....all the bolt-ons would yield closer to 11 pounds...FI cams will also lower the boost reading...
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 03:42 AM
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speaking of m62...thats the same blower used in the comptech tsx that was in this months Sport Compact Car Magazine
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