Abs - wtf ??
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Ok guys im having a small issue with my ABS light.
I start the car in the morning and the ABS light comes on and dings.
- The car is parked and is not moving when the light comes on.
- Only happens after it sits over night.
- I turn the car off, and turn it right back on and the light goes away.
- No CEL and no codes via the interceptor.
The light has not come on while driving, knock on wood.
I was told to check all 4 wheels sensors, will do so this weekend.
Does anyone know how/ know where to go to read the ABS light ?
Can i get a list of places to check for a loose ground wire ?
any help is greatly appreciated.
I start the car in the morning and the ABS light comes on and dings.
- The car is parked and is not moving when the light comes on.
- Only happens after it sits over night.
- I turn the car off, and turn it right back on and the light goes away.
- No CEL and no codes via the interceptor.
The light has not come on while driving, knock on wood.
I was told to check all 4 wheels sensors, will do so this weekend.
Does anyone know how/ know where to go to read the ABS light ?
Can i get a list of places to check for a loose ground wire ?
any help is greatly appreciated.
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hmmm interesting .... have you used this on your cobalt ?
Ive read that people have issues reading certain cars with certain readers ... like there is a certain reader needed for GM.
it also looks like you have to pay $50 for the GM software + $50 for the dongle.
Ive read that people have issues reading certain cars with certain readers ... like there is a certain reader needed for GM.
it also looks like you have to pay $50 for the GM software + $50 for the dongle.
Last edited by yellowsupercharged06; Jun 27, 2014 at 12:59 PM.
I don't have it but my friend does, I can try it out and see how it works. It does abs, srs, radio, instrument cluster and a/t pretty sweet
Ya seems that way. Still 100 bucks beats 400
Ya seems that way. Still 100 bucks beats 400
Last edited by tomj77; Jun 27, 2014 at 01:09 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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yea i was just reading about it ... it makes u buy the Chevy software before you can do anything ... ill see what my other options are and then maybe ill buy this thing.
ebay... sadly...
ELM327 from ebay $20ish
FREE version of Torque from the app store on your phone (ive got the $2 version, my opinion its alot better than the free one).
Ive never had any issues reading anything with Torque... Hell, i used it when I worked at Nissan on customer cars when our pos Nissan reader was down (which happened alot).
It may not give you a description of the trouble code sometimes, but it still posts the codes so you can google them (some codes are brand specific and you have to pay extra for each brand specific set of definitions, nuts to that).
ELM327 from ebay $20ish
FREE version of Torque from the app store on your phone (ive got the $2 version, my opinion its alot better than the free one).
Ive never had any issues reading anything with Torque... Hell, i used it when I worked at Nissan on customer cars when our pos Nissan reader was down (which happened alot).
It may not give you a description of the trouble code sometimes, but it still posts the codes so you can google them (some codes are brand specific and you have to pay extra for each brand specific set of definitions, nuts to that).
Not having ABS will not cause bodily harm to the OP or anyone in the path of their car...
(unless the light is on because you have no brake fluid)
Therefore...
Its EASIER if you have the right equipment and know how to diagnose ABS problems...
But you can diagnose almost any ABS problem with a voltmeter. (Im assuming that the OP has an 06 SS which doesn't use CAN on the ABS.)
So if you take your time and ask questions you will come up with an answer.
Figured I'd offer, how olds your battery?
It's possible after sitting overnight you lose just enough power for it to throw a low voltage code without having any issues on the engine side.
If it turns off after shutting down and restarting the car that's the only thing that really makes sense to me.
If it were a speed sensor issue, then the light would come on with wheel rotation. there's not a whole lot more on the abs system, esc and trac are where things can get stupid with yaw rate sensors, integral speed sensors etc...
It's possible after sitting overnight you lose just enough power for it to throw a low voltage code without having any issues on the engine side.
If it turns off after shutting down and restarting the car that's the only thing that really makes sense to me.
If it were a speed sensor issue, then the light would come on with wheel rotation. there's not a whole lot more on the abs system, esc and trac are where things can get stupid with yaw rate sensors, integral speed sensors etc...
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It could possibly be the battery. It only happens in the morning after sitting overnight. (The battery is the original one from 06 lol)
But after 8 hrs of sitting at work it doesnt come on.
Do you know what the voltage should be at each sensor?
And yea it will not come on while driving. So its not speed related.
Fluid is full no leaks there.
But after 8 hrs of sitting at work it doesnt come on.
Do you know what the voltage should be at each sensor?
And yea it will not come on while driving. So its not speed related.
Fluid is full no leaks there.
Abs sensors read ACV, not DC voltage, the best you could do would be ohm them out and see if one is open...but even still the light would stay lit as soon as the wheels started rotating if there was a bad sensor.
I'm sticking with my low voltage theory. I'm assuming the cars sits longer than the 8 hours overnight. maybe those extra couple hours are enough to do it.
And your pretty lucky to get 8years out of the battery. If its starting to lose juice the modules will be the first ones to see it.
Pop it out and take it to your local parts store and have them test it.
I'm sticking with my low voltage theory. I'm assuming the cars sits longer than the 8 hours overnight. maybe those extra couple hours are enough to do it.
And your pretty lucky to get 8years out of the battery. If its starting to lose juice the modules will be the first ones to see it.
Pop it out and take it to your local parts store and have them test it.
Last edited by SR Tech; Jun 28, 2014 at 05:33 PM.
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Im thinking moisture is playing a factor for some reason.
It started up this morning and no light after sitting all night.
My volts drop pretty quick wen the car is off and i have the key to the on pos. Without the car running.
Drops to lik 12.5 and falls .1 pretty quick.
New battery time
It started up this morning and no light after sitting all night.
My volts drop pretty quick wen the car is off and i have the key to the on pos. Without the car running.
Drops to lik 12.5 and falls .1 pretty quick.
New battery time
Im thinking moisture is playing a factor for some reason.
It started up this morning and no light after sitting all night.
My volts drop pretty quick wen the car is off and i have the key to the on pos. Without the car running.
Drops to lik 12.5 and falls .1 pretty quick.
New battery time
It started up this morning and no light after sitting all night.
My volts drop pretty quick wen the car is off and i have the key to the on pos. Without the car running.
Drops to lik 12.5 and falls .1 pretty quick.
New battery time
My ABS light was coming on while driving, turned out it was the alt dying on me. I went from nothing, to the light coming on, to being dead in the water 3 hours from home in the span of about 5 hours. While at a track day. It was... just lovely.
Im thinking moisture is playing a factor for some reason.
It started up this morning and no light after sitting all night.
My volts drop pretty quick wen the car is off and i have the key to the on pos. Without the car running.
Drops to lik 12.5 and falls .1 pretty quick.
New battery time
It started up this morning and no light after sitting all night.
My volts drop pretty quick wen the car is off and i have the key to the on pos. Without the car running.
Drops to lik 12.5 and falls .1 pretty quick.
New battery time
just to tag myself in on this thread haha
i washed my car last night and when i left this morning i backed out and when i stopped to put it into first my ABS light came on with the chime. i stopped checked the manual. shut the car off while i read
started back up no light
I do have an inconsistent brake problem, rolls into the brakes when driving. I was going 80 and was going to slow down for the off ramp and i had to push more to get them to react, it has done it other times. And if i dont drive the car for a day they feel extra soft even if i pump them. but it doesnt always do these things
running dot4 too
not sure if the ABS light and the brake symptoms are connected
im pretty easy on the brakes unless im spirited driving on occasion
i washed my car last night and when i left this morning i backed out and when i stopped to put it into first my ABS light came on with the chime. i stopped checked the manual. shut the car off while i read
started back up no light
I do have an inconsistent brake problem, rolls into the brakes when driving. I was going 80 and was going to slow down for the off ramp and i had to push more to get them to react, it has done it other times. And if i dont drive the car for a day they feel extra soft even if i pump them. but it doesnt always do these things
running dot4 too
not sure if the ABS light and the brake symptoms are connected
im pretty easy on the brakes unless im spirited driving on occasion
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yea i havent done anything to fix my problem ... it fixed itself.
has not come on in over 2 weeks lol (knock on wood) ... sooo i have no idea wat was going on lol
has not come on in over 2 weeks lol (knock on wood) ... sooo i have no idea wat was going on lol



