blown engine or cat?
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at this point it is not the cat, i can smell unburnt gas from the exhaust so one of the pistons arent firing. im going to check the spark plugs, if there is nothing wrong then i will do a compression test. its cold as **** right now so im gonna wait a couple hours.
im taking out the spark plugs now, the three that i got out are black and smell fuel soaked. the furthest one to the right is tight coming out. i am putting a lot of force trying to get it out but i dont want to break it. it did rotate a few times before getting tough. help me out. what should i do next.
If an engine part fails, it's very common that it's a piston or ring. If a piston or ring fails, it's pretty common that it's #4 due to fueling issues.
You're right but have you ever actually seen a Cobalt "crack" a piston. I've seen them burn some up and even blow apart some rings but never crack one. And I'm aware that 90% when Cobalts have engine internal problems it's the #4 piston but how can you be sure it's a blown engine just by listening to a video?
Getting back to actually helping the problem- If you think it might be a cat issue after you do a compression test disconnect the down pipe and see if it runs any better. Obviously if you find something wrong during the compression test theres no need to do this.
You're right but have you ever actually seen a Cobalt "crack" a piston. I've seen them burn some up and even blow apart some rings but never crack one. And I'm aware that 90% when Cobalts have engine internal problems it's the #4 piston but how can you be sure it's a blown engine just by listening to a video?
Getting back to actually helping the problem- If you think it might be a cat issue after you do a compression test disconnect the down pipe and see if it runs any better. Obviously if you find something wrong during the compression test theres no need to do this.
im taking out the spark plugs now, the three that i got out are black and smell fuel soaked. the furthest one to the right is tight coming out. i am putting a lot of force trying to get it out but i dont want to break it. it did rotate a few times before getting tough. help me out. what should i do next.
Last edited by Nussle; Jan 10, 2009 at 11:08 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Getting back to actually helping the problem- If you think it might be a cat issue after you do a compression test disconnect the down pipe and see if it runs any better. Obviously if you find something wrong during the compression test theres no need to do this.
A lot of people can tell because there's on average at least one thread every other week asking if their engine's blown. Generally if it sounds like total ****, something inside broke.
Although, now that I watched that video, that's definitely not a cat, something is really fucked up with that engine. Make sure every cyl is getting spark, and if it is then time to tear it apart. Check for oil on the pistons/plugs too. I would recommend not starting it again until you got a compression and leakdown test done.
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at this point it is not the cat, i can smell unburnt gas from the exhaust so one of the pistons arent firing. im going to check the spark plugs, if there is nothing wrong then i will do a compression test. its cold as **** right now so im gonna wait a couple hours.
im taking out the spark plugs now, the three that i got out are black and smell fuel soaked. the furthest one to the right is tight coming out. i am putting a lot of force trying to get it out but i dont want to break it. it did rotate a few times before getting tough. help me out. what should i do next.
turn it back in and try backing it out again. it may have just cross threaded a little
at this point it is not the cat, i can smell unburnt gas from the exhaust so one of the pistons arent firing. im going to check the spark plugs, if there is nothing wrong then i will do a compression test. its cold as **** right now so im gonna wait a couple hours.
im taking out the spark plugs now, the three that i got out are black and smell fuel soaked. the furthest one to the right is tight coming out. i am putting a lot of force trying to get it out but i dont want to break it. it did rotate a few times before getting tough. help me out. what should i do next.
should i go with the iriduims or coppers? and i one some website it said to use needle nose plyers to gap them, not a gaping tool because it will take off the iriduim coating.... so how would you measure the gap.
HOLY ****.... Uhm, hope for your sake that **** didn't go down in the motor.
NGK BKR7E copper plugs gap them .32-.35 and try again.... and hand tight the plugs down and then do a quick 1/4 turn further!
And pray that missing metal isn't in the cylinder!
NGK BKR7E copper plugs gap them .32-.35 and try again.... and hand tight the plugs down and then do a quick 1/4 turn further!
And pray that missing metal isn't in the cylinder!
i have no clue how it happend, its just what i found once i got the plug out. guess i have to take it somewhere because i dont know what to do next. i guess no one else has had this happen.
That's crazy i have never seen anything like that. Is it possible that one of the plugs was different than the other 3 ?? If i were you id pull the others and compare them to the Mangled plug the best you can. ANYTIME i install new plugs i always compare the one i just pulled to the one i am about to install..Ya never know.... Did u get them at autozone ????
owned. that wierd and i thought i had it bad when you can put ur finger threw my #2 piston
your gonna have to take it apart, hopefully the stealership can take care of it, im thinkin teardown
your gonna have to take it apart, hopefully the stealership can take care of it, im thinkin teardown
Last edited by SloBaLt RiDeR; Jan 10, 2009 at 05:00 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
I will tell you how it happened.
He changed the spark plugs, then the engine broke.
There is no rocket science here.
Why did you change the plugs the first place? Did you use the right kind? You cross threaded it installing it, you damaged the piston. You used WD40 on a spark plug (which destroyed engine oil). Your engine is probably damaged significantly at this point, I would get some additional help before trying to put it back together again.
He changed the spark plugs, then the engine broke.
There is no rocket science here.
Why did you change the plugs the first place? Did you use the right kind? You cross threaded it installing it, you damaged the piston. You used WD40 on a spark plug (which destroyed engine oil). Your engine is probably damaged significantly at this point, I would get some additional help before trying to put it back together again.
I will tell you how it happened.
He changed the spark plugs, then the engine broke.
There is no rocket science here.
Why did you change the plugs the first place? Did you use the right kind? You cross threaded it installing it, you damaged the piston. You used WD40 on a spark plug (which destroyed engine oil). Your engine is probably damaged significantly at this point, I would get some additional help before trying to put it back together again.
He changed the spark plugs, then the engine broke.
There is no rocket science here.
Why did you change the plugs the first place? Did you use the right kind? You cross threaded it installing it, you damaged the piston. You used WD40 on a spark plug (which destroyed engine oil). Your engine is probably damaged significantly at this point, I would get some additional help before trying to put it back together again.
oh and if you really think that i care about the oil at this point your crazy. besides i barely sprayed it and the most that would do is make it smoke for a second when it first started.
lol well hes wrong this time. he can just come out and state that i crossthreaded the plug? thats not even why it stripped out. i stated earlier about the melted aluminum at the end of the plug.
i really think its impossible to say anything about your car problems on here without getting bashed. there is also oil on the plugs. the car has 60k on it now so im not real suprised that this happend.
i really think its impossible to say anything about your car problems on here without getting bashed. there is also oil on the plugs. the car has 60k on it now so im not real suprised that this happend.
Last edited by Nussle; Jan 10, 2009 at 07:03 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Let this be a lesson to you Nussle - if your car has a blinking CEL then you need to do a compression and leakdown test IMMEDIATELY, then if both of those pass try replacing other parts.



