Agreed, I'll never own another if they don't take care of me on this one.

Now I'm looking at what aftermarket clutch I want.. Was looking at the ZZP Stage 4 cause obviously I'm not paying for a factory clutch after what happened to mine and If I have to tear it apart, I'm putting something solid in there. Also just read up about a KY Clutch, so i'm not sure what I want to go with atm.

 

What pisses me off to no end is that the friggin dealers wont even take the car apart to look at the problem.

Thats like a doctor getting a patient for surgery, looking at them and saying "No they're not having a heart attack, they look fine" and they die. A little drastic, but same concept, laziness!

 

Yup... And you know that they didn't tear it all the way apart and just put it back together just to roll it outside and wait a week for parts to come in. So it was def not taken apart.

I have been reading up and people saying they have had the pressure plate fail, not real sure what they mean by failing, whatever it does could cause the destruction of my disk that is show in my picture maybe? idk...

 

pretty much thats how i feel b/c of my age and the type of car it is i have to get the short end of the totem pole but its cool oh well you live and you learn they probably saw the intake and was like this kid races we aren't gonna cover it what a shame

 

Why don't you go to a different dealer if yours sucks. Every brand has good and bad ones.

 

Well it looks as if I'm going to pick up my car with a trailer from the dealership today and pay a few hundred dollars to get it back from them, and then take it to a performance shop around here and let them install a new clutch and flywheel for me. Screw giving anymore money to GM after this. Apparently even the gm field rep that can overturn the service managers decision is agreeing with him, and I guarantee the car has never been taken apart for them to make this decision. Wow...

 

i wouldn't pay anything, you aren't obligated to pay anything if you never authorized the work

 

Diagnostic fees

 

no i wouldn't pay that they are getting over on you the dealership told me they weren't covering my car i didn't pay anything they led you on i hate this ****

 

Well I had to sign a paper that said they were allowed to look at it so I'm pretty sure they have me on the diagnostic fees and crap. I mean, I don't expect stuff for free so i don't mind paying the fees for them to look at it but It was quite obvious the issue just by walked next to the car and smelling lol. But anyways i've already ordered the light weight flywheel and ordering my clutch next paycheck so it'll work out better for me in the end anyways.

 

Man, that phucking sucks bro. I had a bad/ porous engine block in my '08 SS/TC and they made a call and replaced the whole block for me, np. Sorry ur dealer had to be full of dumbasses, but it did work out better with the new setup ur gettin'

 

Has anyone ever installed the ZZP Stage 4 clutch before? I have purchased a light weight flywheel, arp bolts, and getting ready to get order the clutch with the upgraded throwout bearing. Is there anything else i should do while its apart? I hear there is a tube that is a good idea for it to be replaced while in there as well. I know it comes with the factory clutch kit but not sure if it comes with the ZZP kit. Its only a 8$ item so no big deal just want to make sure there isn't anything else little like that I should take care of while I'm at it. Any advise is appreciated. Thanks guys!

 

if u do decide to just go ahead and pay for the clutch i'd upgrade to the GMPP clutch. from what i've read it's a very good clutch for the LSJ. it's definately what i'll be going with and I believe it's actually the same price possibly even cheaper than just the stock LSJ clutch. GL!

 

Nah i'm getting the ZZP Stage 4... not to happy with GM at the moment so i don't want to give them any more of my money.

 

OP drives an LNF. the gmpp clutch is a stock LNF clutch so it wouldnt be an upgrade

ive installed one on my friends car. its a really good clutch, feels just like stock but holds more power.

make sure you get a clutch pipe too, thats the $8 thing you were talking about.

if youre doing the clutch yourself make sure you have some friends. it can be a PITA the first time but its honestly not that hard.

theres a PDF or guide on how to replace a clutch on an LSJ, id suggest finding that as its basically the same for the LNF and it helps out a lot. i followed it when i did the clutch and we got it done in 2 days (about 8 hours per day). if i had to do it again im sure i could do it in 6-8 hours. its not that bad.

make sure you get or borrow a clutch alignment tool as well.

 

gmpp clutch is not an lnf clutch. it uses pieces of the lnf setup and some off the saab f40 setup. holds like hell. can't get it to slip on my s256 on 24psi

 

Awesome Thanks man! I am actually getting a guy to do the install for me. He use to do all the transmission work down at the local dealership (which is the only dealership I have ever loved, but got bought out and shut down ..... ) and he does amazing work. He now has his own shop and does work on drag cars and everything else so i'm going to let him install it for me. I'll go order the clutch pipe now!

 

is it? whats diffrent? the clutch disk is the same from what i know. is it a stronger pressure plate than the LNF?

and the main reason why our clutches slip (LNF guys) is because when tuned to the limits of the stock turbo, the K04 has a nasty torque curve which hits all at once. in my case, insta 400tq in no time.

area47 told me a bigger turbo will actually be easier on the clutch because the torque isnt as violent.

 

im coming late in the game here i suppose but my car kinda did/doing the same but only when i pull hard from 1st-3rd gear but the weird thing about it is 1st gets up fine 2nd more times then not the rpm's will punch red line and there will be no acceleration then third will do the same then 4th and 5th work just fine clutch feels solid no burning smells wondering if it is the clutch or something completely different

 

Boxybrown659,

If you decide to work with a dealership towards getting this concern diagnosed, please let me know! We can assist you in the process.

Regards,
Sarah
GM Customer Service

 

Good luck! Hope they will actually look into yours instead of just seeing its an SS and blaming it on Abuse.

I actually had my clutch pedal stay on the floor a few times when I was on the side of the road and I had to reach down and pull it back up with my hands.. but apparently that can't be a defective item that caused that.

 

i can definitely say i've never seen a picture like that. and everybody wonders why nobody wants to buy american anymore. this is why. talk about a raw deal.

 

What really upsets me about the whole deal is that they are blaming it on abuse. Ok, thats cool, just give me a write up on what you did to prove it was abuse and not a defective item and i'm cool with that. But no GM Regional manager told me the they will not put a thing in writing for me that they only take care of stuff over the phone. So the fact that they won't give anything to me in writing or email of their diagnostics on my car is reeeeeaaaaallllyyy shady in my opinion.

I'm seriously considering talking to the attorney at my work again about this and see what he has to say. Last time I spoke with him he told me to just get their diagnostics in writing and then he would get me in contact with a few of his buddies that cover this type of stuff. And now that they refuse to give me that info, I guessing I may just go see what they say tomorrow. Really Really hate that it has to come down to that but what do you guys think of all this?

 

You had 30k+ miles and bits of clutch all over the place. What did you really expect them to say? You think Nissan, Toyota, Honda or anyone else would say different? About all you could argue is they should have taken everything apart and charged you more to say the same thing.

 

If it was just my clutch disc going out, would that cause my pedal to stay on the floor? And typically when a clutch goes out there is some slipping that happens before hand not just BAM its in pieces.

Also when nobody at the dealer has ever seen that happen? Clearly if I burnt the clutch out you wouldn't have perfectly fine fibers they would be burnt and scorched. And I don't beat on my car, I baby it. And even if they do try and say I was at WOT or something.. did they not design that clutch to support the power of the car?