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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 12:26 PM
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Need Help to pass Inspection

I have a 2005 ss/sc with no cat, and do not intend on putting one on, how can I pass my NYS emissions? I have HP Tuners, but have no idea what to do to get the car to pass, and its over due....
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 12:27 PM
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im not sure in NY, but if if you came to my shop, just by looking at the car, Id have to fail you do to visually seeing, no cat.

cant help you on the NY thing though. good luck
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 12:31 PM
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well my family owns a shop here, they know i dont have a cat, nor do they care....
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 12:32 PM
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Go to valvoline or one of those instant oil change places. They should pass it no problem. They literally checked my lights and slapped the sticker on.
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by italstalnprd86
well my family owns a shop here, they know i dont have a cat, nor do they care....
then i dont see the problem...unless you have to do OBD hookup for emmissions
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 10:27 PM
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We in NYS have to have the car scanned .
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 10:17 PM
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ohhh thats bitchin, Im a certified emmisions inspector, and have wanted to go catless, but I cant beat the OBD system. So its not really worth it for me.
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 10:22 PM
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just take it to valvoline or a shop that you know people who work there
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 10:24 PM
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take it to a private shop, pay extra, and they may pass you, if they're shady. if they're a legit shop, you're out of your money, and you fail. i don't know how it is in ny, but in nj you'll get in alot of trouble if you don't have a cat.
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 10:27 PM
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even if i did live or work i NY, i dont think itd be worth loosing my job and licsense over passing your car.
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 10:38 PM
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is it throwing a code? if not, and they dont visibly inspect the underside of your car, then you should pass. But dont let it stay overdue, or they will send a hefty fine your way. (at least in NC they do)

Its just not worth the trouble of going catless...
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 10:40 PM
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How can you PASS? put a damn cat on it

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is it throwing a code? if not, and they dont visibly inspect the underside of your car, then you should pass. But dont let it stay overdue, or they will send a hefty fine your way. (at least in NC they do)

Its just not worth the trouble of going catless...
They do inspect exhausts for no cats.

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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 10:44 PM
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$2,500 dollar fine, I think you loose your license for 3 or 6 mths, and that's just for the 1st offense. That's just here in Nova Scotia, which came into effect april 1st this year. All our emmission laws are modeled after california laws. Can't even have a "free flowing" muffler. If a broom handle can go up the muffler without hitting any baffles you fail. When I went for my last safety inspection, I saw the mechanic doing that to my car, looked like my car was getting an anial probe.
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by D4u2s0t
take it to a private shop, pay extra, and they may pass you, if they're shady. if they're a legit shop, you're out of your money, and you fail. i don't know how it is in ny, but in nj you'll get in alot of trouble if you don't have a cat.
Not going to work in NY . There is a NYS computer in every shop that does inspections . They use a bar scanner to scan the registration on the windshield , then they plug the states PC into your car to check all the emmission related systems . I was wondering how many NY people kept their stock DP's , cause they are going to need a cat to pass.
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 12:31 AM
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it should be throwing a p0420 code. go into hpt and delete this code and you'll pass when they plug it up. i wouldn't worry about them looking under your car. go to a shop with some kids workin at it and they wont care. slip them a 20 and ur good.
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 12:35 AM
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lol inspection for me is like 3 minutes 1 to pull the car in 1 for them to see that i have an 06 and say im good 1 to pay and leave.
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 12:42 AM
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if they do what they are supposed to, then they have to look under the car to make sure that you do in fact have both a muffler and a cat on your car.

NOw.. you could take a cat, gut it out, and disable the code in HPTuners, and it would look like you have one, because you do, but they would never find out its empty. Problem SOLVED

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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 12:44 AM
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srsly. in pa we have obd2 test. delete the code with hpt and your all good.

Originally Posted by EdCobaltSS
if they do what they are supposed to, then they have to look under the car to make sure that you do in fact have both a muffler and a cat on your car.

NOw.. you could take a cat, gut it out, and disable the code in HPTuners, and it would look like you have one, because you do, but they would never find out its empty. Problem SOLVED
i will be doing this exact procedure my next day off.

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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Dead Zen
srsly. in pa we have obd2 test. delete the code with hpt and your all good.



i will be doing this exact procedure my next day off.
but we still have the visual test as well, so we have to hope they dont see the cat not sitting there.
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by italstalnprd86
I have a 2005 ss/sc with no cat, and do not intend on putting one on, how can I pass my NYS emissions? I have HP Tuners, but have no idea what to do to get the car to pass, and its over due....
Turn off all the emissions dtcs...such as 0420.

Originally Posted by Dead Zen
srsly. in pa we have obd2 test. delete the code with hpt and your all good.



i will be doing this exact procedure my next day off.
They look under the car to make sure it's there...I actually have a cat. Hence if you want to go catless just gouge out the cat. But that's just in PA. It's pretty loose in every state except CA; most don't use sniffers.

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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 02:40 AM
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get a O2 Simulator
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 03:26 AM
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for the second time, my family owns the shop, i work there, and all my techs know i dont have a cat, that isnt the problem, the problem is getting the computer to read the flags as set or not, nm...
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 05:05 AM
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only CA uses sniffers on OBD 2 vehicles, all other states do visual checks, and OBD2 checks

Originally Posted by italstalnprd86
for the second time, my family owns the shop, i work there, and all my techs know i dont have a cat, that isnt the problem, the problem is getting the computer to read the flags as set or not, nm...
NO, if you disable the code in HPTuners, it wont show up as a problem in the OBD computer for the state

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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 03:56 PM
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Bro I have a stock 2.2 downpipe in NJ if you need it. I'm sure your car will sound/perform awful with it in, but it should get you through emissions.
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by EdCobaltSS
only CA uses sniffers on OBD 2 vehicles, all other states do visual checks, and OBD2 checks



NO, if you disable the code in HPTuners, it wont show up as a problem in the OBD computer for the state
Yeah...I'm not sure how this guy owns hp tuners and doesn't know this. The test doesn't check to see what codes your computer will trigger when a state is reached it only checks readiness and whether or not a code is present. If you uncheck all the dtcs, no code will register when your rear o2 sensor says there is no change in exhaust between the 2 o2 sensors (0420 I believe). And unchecking the dtcs doesn't affect the readiness tests.

For PA you can have one readiness test as incomplete and still pass...but if you have a cel you will fail...if your computer has all the dtcs unchecked in hptuners then you will never get a cel.
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