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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 03:14 AM
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Question Odd Problem

Well here's how it goes....

I was cleaning up some wiring (soldering/heatshrinking some connections) and messing with the dual pass setup. Cleaned everything up, put everything together and went to plug the battery back in. As soon as I attempted to plug the battery in, the car started itself and the starter kept cranking (mind you there were no keys in the ignition or anything). Basically the starter is getting a constant power supply as soon as the battery is hooked up.

Now here's what happened while I was working...

I had a shop light plugged in with an extension cord sitting in the engine compartment (so i could see what i was soldering), the male and female ends of the light power cord and extension cord were pried apart just slightly and the cord swung and the prongs from the lamp's power cord came in contact with the frame of the vehicle, causing a dazzling display of lights aswell a popping a circuit.

So here are my theories, I have no voltmeter to check the relay, but i think...

1.) My electrical incident may have blown the relay for the starter.

or

2.) The starter somehow lost its ground. I did manage to get the car up an inspect the starter and it appears to have a ground connection and nothing seems to be loose so im not sure what's up.

Anyone have any input or experience with an issue like this/similar to this.
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 03:36 AM
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you could have fried your ecu do to high voltage going through the frame but it could be just the starter grounded out, try and jump your starter if that don't work then i bet your ecu is shot.
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 03:38 AM
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warranty ftw
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 03:39 AM
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i say your cars done for just like mine lol

your car starts its self and mine has no power steering

ha ha ha ha warranty

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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Super_SS
warranty ftw
what is a warranty? lol
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowBalt_06
i say your cars done for just like mine lol

your car starts its self and mine has no power steering

ha ha ha ha warranty
mine had no power steering when my tranny went out..and as soon as they replaced the tranny i had power steering again..WEIRD i say

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what is a warranty? lol
oh crap,i forgot ur a 2.4 SS/SC...never mind my post..just by-pass it

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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 03:42 AM
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my trannys perfect..my gauges freak out and my power steering shuts off whenever i mess with the tilt wheel
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 03:44 AM
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my trannys perfect..my gauges freak out and my power steering shuts off whenever i mess with the tilt wheel
uhmm fuse problems?maybe week fuse on the steerin pump,ours is electrical,so might be it...

and gauges goin nuts?hmmm did u smoke crack in the car?
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 03:51 AM
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no crack...idk what it is my cars been to the dealer 10 times and no fix
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowBalt_06
no crack...idk what it is my cars been to the dealer 10 times and no fix
now thats a LEMON...
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 03:52 AM
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i just really hope its not an ECU problem. I'll have to check it out tomorrow morning but i'm open to ideas so keep on posting!
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 03:54 AM
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i just really hope its not an ECU problem. I'll have to check it out tomorrow morning but i'm open to ideas so keep on posting!
im guessin maybe u popped a fuse for something..double check ur fuses
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 03:54 AM
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yup and they still dont think i'm worthy of a lemon
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowBalt_06
yup and they still dont think i'm worthy of a lemon
they dont,but the lawyers do..they wont get u involved..they just get ur info and those dealer receipts u have,and they do the rest...
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 03:57 AM
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yea i know but i love my car and im lazy
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowBalt_06
yea i know but i love my car and im lazy
now thats a problem..hahahaha,so u got any pics of ur h/e
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 04:05 AM
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no i need to take some

**** i paid a few bucks extra to get the header and dp faster...it will be at my door friday at 3pm

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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 04:10 AM
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Trial and error, try disconnecting the power and ground from the starter and hook up power to it only. If it tries to start, then you know its bad. If not, it's something else (probably the ECU)
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowBalt_06
no i need to take some

**** i paid a few bucks extra to get the header and dp faster...it will be at my door friday at 3pm
u live on the west coast like he does...im on the other side of america
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 04:25 AM
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actually i live like an hour away from beck he's my bish
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowBalt_06
actually i live like an hour away from beck he's my bish
then why didnt u go pick it up?danm u cobalt people are weird
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 12:12 PM
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bump for the morning crew
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 12:19 PM
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Did ya give a try what I said?
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 12:24 PM
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so when you connect the batter, the starter engages.

first pull the starter relay and see if that stops it.

looking at the engine bay from the front, jumper a wire from the bottom left hole, to the top right hole, where the starter relay prongs went.

if it tries to start when you do that, and stops when you take the jumper out, your relay is toast.
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by an0malous
so when you connect the batter, the starter engages.

first pull the starter relay and see if that stops it.

looking at the engine bay from the front, jumper a wire from the bottom left hole, to the top right hole, where the starter relay prongs went.

if it tries to start when you do that, and stops when you take the jumper out, your relay is toast.
with the relay out of the car it still cranks.....
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