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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 01:04 PM
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Skipping under accele.

I have a GMPP S2. Under hard acceleration i notice sometimes like a skippind feeling. Like the spark wouldn't be happening sometimes, or not enough fuel going to the motor.

Is this hapenning to anyone else?? and is it cause for concern?/ Or could it be the cold canadian winter causing that??

Any help please!!
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 06:30 PM
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 06:37 PM
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If its like the motor is hesitating then it could be you traction control.
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by That Cobalt LT Guy
If its like the motor is hesitating then it could be you traction control.
SS/SC's don't have Traction control. It happens to me sometimes in 2nd gear. Around 5K rpm it will hesitate... I don't know why though. If that is what you are refering to. Other than that I haven't had any problems.
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 06:45 PM
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Traction control dosent cut engine power unless the slipping is SEVERE, otherwise it simply applies the brake to the appropriate wheel.
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 06:46 PM
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SS/SC's don't have Traction control. It happens to me sometimes in 2nd gear. Around 5K rpm it will hesitate... I don't know why though. If that is what you are refering to. Other than that I haven't had any problems.
This happens to me in 2nd on the very first startup on a cold morning. Only happens the first time you shift to 2nd. Everytime after that the rest of the day it is fine....Wierd
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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GO GET IT REFLASHED!!!!!
i had this problem dude. exactly. wracked my brains for weeks and had them check it over twice, then someone found a new reflash that adresses our exact issue!!!!!
boost surging under heavy accel particularly in 2nd and 3rd......

trust me....my car was an entirely new animal when i got the latest updates.
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 06:48 PM
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My car does it in 1-3 gear sometimes, and i'm stock. I don't know if something is wrong or what.
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 06:52 PM
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Mine does this sometimes when useing a lower octane fuel such as 87, on mine its the computer pulling timing when in senses knock, it feels like a sputter or just freeze of power. When looking at my RPM gauge when this happened it just jumped down then back up immediately..........
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by an0malous
GO GET IT REFLASHED!!!!!
i had this problem dude. exactly. wracked my brains for weeks and had them check it over twice, then someone found a new reflash that adresses our exact issue!!!!!
boost surging under heavy accel particularly in 2nd and 3rd......

trust me....my car was an entirely new animal when i got the latest updates.
Sweet! I am going to makle an appointment to get it reflashed. See what happends.... Its nothing to bad, just kind of sucks the hessitation it has under hard acceleration!
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 07:03 PM
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I have the newest reflash and I get that hesitating around 3-5k rpms.. annoys the hell out of me.. and yea when I just start up my car its at worst regardless of the temperature.. Hopefully I can figure out a way to stop it
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by wwwilly
This happens to me in 2nd on the very first startup on a cold morning. Only happens the first time you shift to 2nd. Everytime after that the rest of the day it is fine....Wierd
Is it under heavy acceleration or regular driving? If it is regular driving then you have nothing to worry about. You can get it reflashed all you want, it might fix it... it might not. When did you have Stage 2 installed? You problem is probably the fact that your engine is still cold that first time you shift... so the engine is compensating and in a sense... "Choking" your engine. Let your car warm up for a good long while and see if it happens. We really need more details though... like when you start it up, do just take off. Or do you let it sit for X amount of minutes and idle... DETAILS.
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 07:05 PM
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but for now check your plugs and make sure they are gapped correctly.. I closed my cap to like a .40 and it helped a lot ( Somehow it was opened a lot more.. I think the dealership may have messed with the gap during stage 2 installation no idea)
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 07:06 PM
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is it when you just start your car up it seems really bad and bogs and hesitates? and after a while the bogging and hesitating calms down a bit after your engine is warmed up and run for a while and only hesitated before the 3-5k mark.. if yea same problem here
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by wwwilly
This happens to me in 2nd on the very first startup on a cold morning. Only happens the first time you shift to 2nd. Everytime after that the rest of the day it is fine....Wierd

Mine has the same problem but I think its just because its colder outside. If I just start it up and start going it bogs down hard only on shifting to 2nd. If i let the engine get to around 100 degrees and get going, I still feel it but nowhere near as bad.
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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Well I keep my information center thing at engine temp, and i wait till its arounf at least 80C before i push it hard. Regular operating temp is areound the 90ish. And yeah its usually around the 5-6K where it makes that skipping under WOT or hard acceleration
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 07:23 PM
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Also I can be driving normal for an hour and when I WOT it makes that.

But If iam driving hard, then it will almost never make it. And it comes and goes.

I drive 2 stroke motorcross and when you dont drive it hard for a bit, the pluggs get carbonnated. Now I know the pluggs arent carbonated, but it feels the same way.
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 09:36 PM
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 10:07 PM
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i dont know if you have the newest flash then.....seriously this only came out like 3 weeks ago. and it 100% completely took this EXACT problem away from my car.
hasnt skipped, hesitated or surged since the day i took it in.
if you havent had a flash done in the last month take it in. trust me on this one

im going to go dig up the proof for you.
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 10:10 PM
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Sounds like spark blowout. Regap the plugs if that is it.
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 10:12 PM
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Like the others said. Check plug gap and get the new flash. Try getting your gas from somewhere else if you frequent the same place normally. Get some kind of logging device.
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 10:13 PM
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First this kit is not a power upgrade but addresses issues with false lean/lean codes that some people are getting after installing the gm kits. It also addresses boost surging that can occur with the original stage kit flash as well as the harsh sluggish 1-2 shift some have experienced.

The false lean/lean issue is that the car THINKS it is running too lean thus pulls timing or dumps fuel to correct the issue but there really is no issue at all. The car will NOT show a CEL for this issue unless specific requirements are met within a certain period of time during the same on cycle so a dealer telling you that the CEL needs to show up is incorrect.

Boost surging occurs in the midrange normally before 4500 rpms and feels like the car is rocking back and forth as if it is trying to move but can't. Normally this is seen in 2nd or 3rd gear during sudden acceleration.
The harsh sluggish 1-2 shift happens under fast accelleration when it would be needed when getting on the highway or freeway to match traffic speed quickly. The shift to 2nd feels much like boost surging except that the car will feel like it is failing to get any gas at all thus the car will not accellerate.

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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 10:22 PM
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Thanx man, I will call tomorrow for sure!! I'll keep you guys posted. I'll tell them to chek the gap on the pluggs and reflash the computer!! Can i just call and tell them to puot what you highlighted?? Or should they know the new code?
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 10:23 PM
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But yeah, I think it only does it when i use Irving gas. I'll keep an eye on that!! good ideal!
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 10:24 PM
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those codes are for an 06, and i believe they may be different for each year.
but if you ask your dealer for the latest updates for cobalt ss/sc WITH STAGE KIT (this flash is ONLY for staged cobalts) and tell him about those numbers listed above they should know what to look for.

I cannot stress how much of a difference this made with my car.
You will not be dissapointed.
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