So the first thing I do when I wake up other than get ready and go to work is turn on some cobaltss.net cus I love this place. Lots of buddies here you know. But this morning I got a message, a message not of a happy nature but one of authority. It was in regards to my sig which according to the rules is too large.

There is actually one flaw to that quote. An internet browser only needs to load 1 similar image per page even if the entire page contains that same image a thousand times and some (newer) browsers only need to load an image once per session 56k or not. Pixel size has no relation to file size when downloading a file on any connection. A 1920x1080 image will load just as fast as a 640x480 image if they are both the same in file size.

Everyone I am sure has seen my sig and I did at one point try to edit the sig to no luck cus 100 pixels tall is too small and makes the image look stupid and you can't tell what it is. I wish I had the original image I took but that image was uploaded here and unfortunately by the time I realized it cobaltss.net's database had deleted the full 2560x1920 image so I have a very small image to work with. Below is what it would look like.



Now the rules mention 100 pixels high plus 4 lines so let's see that would look like this


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2
3
4

that equals 154 pixels high



Now I am not complaining I just feel that those that have skill enough to enter text directly to their sig should not be limited to 100 pixels but rather 150 pixels would work very well.

But what about image size which can't exceed 100kb ... well my original file is exactly that amount so file size for an image 500x150 would be less than that.



I think that this is actually a great alternative. A rule could be entered that says a sig with text cannot exceed 500x150 pixels and would allow for much more creative freedom for those that like to create sig files for their favorite cobalt site and for those that create sig files for others that don't have the tools or knowledge to do so.

 

Nice! Yeah, i get introuble for my sigs all the time, there is just no pleasing people

 

i say who cares about sig size. there is a very simple box to click that says do not show sigs that people on 56k need to know about. if we could get that out to the masses the sigs wouldnt be a prob for those of us in the broadband era. altho some sigs got ridiculous. and some need to be reedited to take out empty space around them causing it to be too big.

 

I understand your point, but those are the rules, it doesn't just have to do with file size. I understand how it all works, and im sure JonyyB does too.

But, it also has to do with your signature taking up half of someone screen when they are viewing a thread. If you feel that the rules need amended this is not the way to do it, you need to contact the Admin/JonyyB and voice your concern with with rules...

You can contact him via PM or the Contact Us link at the top of the page.

I would also like to add that even with 4 lines of text your sig is still larger the 100px+4 lines:

 

let it go guys. theres no reason this should even be a thread. rules are rules. if you get a warning, just make it smaller. most of the sigs are pretty cheesy anyway

*note, my sig is correctly sized. because i got an infraction, i'm not mad about it, there really are some people using dial up. hell i probably would be if i wasnt addicted to XBL

 

indeed lol I will have to edit my sig when I get home but I will make a 150 version so as to at least comply with 100px+4 lines rule.

 

for anyone that votes: Why should there be a limit?

1.) if there wasnt a limit everyone would have 2MB GIF sigs and the site would crash
2.) have you ever read a thread where someone with that has a 600px tall image posts 30 times? it gets old having to scroll past it & its probably over 100kb.

 

reign, isnt your sig against site rules? not that its size, but for this reason...

No Competing Sites - We have no issues with competition; however, it would be against our best interests, and therefore the best interests of our members, for us to allow such sites to build upon our popularity by promoting themselves on CobaltSS.net. Therefore, no competing site may attempt to gain traffic from CobaltSS.net in any way, including but not limited to, links in posts, signatures, profile information, PM's, emails, or IM's. No treads about starting competing sites.

 

No its a regional site, and I've discussed it with JonyyB already.

 

ooooh burn

 

Lets keep it on topic now guys... This is about the rules for signature size.

 

i dont see how people get over the 7 lines because when i edit mine if i am over the limit it wont save

 

i really think .gif images shouldn't be allowed. (i dont know if they are, but i see them alot)

 

They are, as long as they are smaller the 100kb and 500x100px

 

I <3 my sig

 

im sure many others do as well

 

i loved my sig before i got an infraction for it. everybody loved the guy in the barbie car but it had to be removed

 

i agree no big deal! i got a warning so i made it smaller, not a huge thing!

 

the biggest thing is that when someone with dialup gets on, the page has to be longer to accomodate the long sigs, so although your sig may be within file size, it makes the overall amount of info that needs to be loaded and processed more.

 

this is not true the size of the webpage has nothing to do with loading the page from the internet. If the computer is slow it can take longer but this has nothing to do with the downloading of information.

 

yes it does, if you have to load a page that is twice as long because of sigs, you have to load everything across the entire scree, its more lines of data overall...i have mine set so that i view 40 posts at once, so that means that your extra lines times 40 is what is extended onto the end of the overall length...think in data terms

 

i think in data terms all day thats what I do for a living

also rendering a webpage is not like rendering an 3d image with a 3d app or rendering an animation or video. Most of what is done these days is completed through scripts which can generate the information quickly. When you specify 40 responses that is all that is being displayed regardless of post size. If it was all text the page would load quickly. If everyone has a sig it would load slower because of the extra data only because the images must be displayed. Having a larger or smaller image extending the page has no bearing on the overall load time just the file size has that kind of affect.

 

well then you should know, the more overall amount of **** on a page that has to be loaded (ie, a bigger sig) the longer it takes to load based on the fact that the computer has to process that much more info. Secondly, it takes up space on the server in the way of saved threads with your huge sig and less space on the server means more crashes...and then we kill you...

 

your assuming we use cobaltss.net for loading images in our sig which most people don't do. in this case we are actually saving cobaltss.net from crashing since only the form data is being loaded rather than the images. When the page is loaded the images begin to load and that is when additional time is taken but again the file pixel sizes can be huge or small the only thing that matters is file size in KB/MB. The page being shorter or longer has no bearing on page load times.

 

but it takes space, which makes the webpage itself expand, and that extra expanse (the overall length of the webpage) will be larger...