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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 07:53 PM
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Vendor Feedback

So since my last thread on vendor feedback was deleted. Got me thinking. What ways do we have on leaving vendor feedback. I was told the forums are not to be used for that. I was also given an infraction for my thread

So can anyone tell me where I can leave vendor feedback?

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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by djt81185
So since my last thread on vendor feedback was deleted. Got me thinking. What ways do we have on leaving vendor feedback. I was told the forums are not to be used for that. I was also given an infraction for my thread

So can anyone tell me where I can leave vendor feedback?

Dan
i was also given an infraction, but not sure for what since the thread was deleted.

anyways, this is a great question. if a vendor presents him/herself in an unprofessional manor it should be able to be addressed. it shouldn't immediately get locked/deleted.
Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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we should be able to leave any kind of feedback...(im really pushing it here lately ill prob be banned sooner or later) ive been saying this in threads all day lol theres too many ppl getting ripped off and screwed over and we should be able to discuss everything
Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:05 PM
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Why not just incorporate a system like eBay has, a star system.. or set up a seperate system of "reputation" specifically for vendors?
I know crap about how to do web stuff, but that shouldn't be so hard, should it?

A vent thread may be good an option, too - or a system where buyers can go through moderators if they have a problem and the moderator can watch the vendor.. A potentially bad vendor needs to be watched just as much as a single unhappy customer shouldn't start a smear campaign.

Obviously this site isn't directly involved in buying or selling, but the vendors do (thank god) peddle their products here.
Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkSergeant
Why not just incorporate a system like eBay has, a star system.. or set up a seperate system of "reputation" specifically for vendors?
I know crap about how to do web stuff, but that shouldn't be so hard, should it?

A vent thread may be good an option, too - or a system where buyers can go through moderators if they have a problem and the moderator can watch the vendor.. A potentially bad vendor needs to be watched just as much as a single unhappy customer shouldn't start a smear campaign.

Obviously this site isn't directly involved in buying or selling, but the vendors do (thank god) peddle their products here.
here's the issue with the current setup. if a supporting vendor does something that people would consider "shady", or is totally unprofessional, as an example, or even if they rip someone off, you're not allowed to tell people about that. even though you could potentially save other members from getting into problems, we're not allowed at all.

there should be SOME form of vendor feedback. this has been brought up many times, and most of the good vendors actually thought it was a great idea.
Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:10 PM
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I agree and would LOVE to see something done this is getting outta hand with all the stuff thats gone on lately
Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:11 PM
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i agree there should be somthing, the problem is there is a ton of immature people who always expect everything yesterday, things happen and mistakes come up..tempers flair , its all part of being human. i just see alot of negative feedback for vendors who may have not desirved it
Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:13 PM
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i like the ebay style idea....when i buy from ebay thats the first thing i look at...ive seen alot of negative feedback and from what ive seen its been there for a reason theres only so much u can take when uve emailed and pmd them for days like some ppl have and get nowhere
Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:13 PM
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On the NECO forums I used to post on when I had that POS, there was a vendor feedback system.. there certainly wasn't vendor protection.

If a few 'vendors' were to get really out of hand and begin totally scamming folks, it could really ruin this whole sites reputation, imo..
Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by halfj99
i agree there should be somthing, the problem is there is a ton of immature people who always expect everything yesterday, things happen and mistakes come up..tempers flair , its all part of being human. i just see alot of negative feedback for vendors who may have not desirved it
it works fine for ebay. would anyone buy off of people on ebay if there was no ratings system? i wouldn't. as soon as i see zero rating, good bye.
Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:17 PM
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and there are also alot of transaction disputes on ebay, we would need a few more mods willing to part there time to handle these disputes in order to make it work...cause im sure halfcent ,marcS,erod ect ect...they just couldnt handle the entire site + this alone especially halfcent who seems to carry the moderating load around here (no offence to the others)
Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:21 PM
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Well I think transaction disputing is a whole 'nother issue. I'm not sure the site should be involved in that.

I really think some kind of system works in everyone's favor... that way a unhappy buyer has a voice, and a vendor doesn't have to worry about a single bad transaction potentially ruining his business here.
Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:24 PM
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thats what im saying, i just think this is something that needs to be well thought out and equal for both sides..or a bunch of impatient punks could ruin a business for someone
Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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srt formation site has a trader rating system... could look into that
Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:27 PM
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how about the site actually be accountable for how its sponsored vendors are treating its users.. and not delete posts to protect a vendor and its money
Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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/\ this thread is atempting to be productive, please keep slandering this site to another non-useful thread
Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by d4u2s0t
if a supporting vendor does something that people would consider "shady", or is totally unprofessional, as an example, or even if they rip someone off, you're not allowed to tell people about that. even though you could potentially save other members from getting into problems, we're not allowed at all.
hmmm...limited speech...sounds more like forum format to me.

IMO...you should be able to 'rep' the vendor, if you ahve bought from them. Many other forums have whats called "sales rating" and you can use that to determine 'shadiness'

...but im not trying to tell the owners/mods here how to run the forum...they seem to be doing a great job...
Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by SK360
how about the site actually be accountable for how its sponsored vendors are treating its users.. and not delete posts to protect a vendor and its money
watch, you'll get infractions for those kinds of posts.

let's keep it clean guys.
Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:41 PM
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one of the great things you can do...that avoids getting warned/banned here...




make a website to account what happened to others...

make a dispute with the BBB

post bad vendor info under different IP addresses, and different names...

tell all the people that you associate with on any forum about the experience...and have them tell others.

i can keep going...

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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:47 PM
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i think as long as a vendor has the chance to voice their side its all good. only reason i say this is because sometimes a post will get locked and there is a totally legitimate explanation for something. based on misunderstandings, people SOMETIMES make posts without contacting the vendor, or without trying to work things out...they will vent...then the post gets locked and the vendor all the while could have handled the issue. etc.
Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by badg1rl
i think as long as a vendor has the chance to voice their side its all good. only reason i say this is because sometimes a post will get locked and there is a totally legitimate explanation for something. based on misunderstandings, people SOMETIMES make posts without contacting the vendor, or without trying to work things out...they will vent...then the post gets locked and the vendor all the while could have handled the issue. etc.
bingo/\ exactly what i been saying will happen if there isnt checks and balances in this
Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by badg1rl
i think as long as a vendor has the chance to voice their side its all good. only reason i say this is because sometimes a post will get locked and there is a totally legitimate explanation for something. based on misunderstandings, people SOMETIMES make posts without contacting the vendor, or without trying to work things out...they will vent...then the post gets locked and the vendor all the while could have handled the issue. etc.
how about when a vendor acts like a child and treats his customer like a peice of dog **** in a public thread, then the thread disapears?... it needs to work both ways and NOT be censored just because X pays Y $Z
Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by D4u2s0t
here's the issue with the current setup. if a supporting vendor does something that people would consider "shady", or is totally unprofessional, as an example, or even if they rip someone off, you're not allowed to tell people about that. even though you could potentially save other members from getting into problems, we're not allowed at all.

there should be SOME form of vendor feedback. this has been brought up many times, and most of the good vendors actually thought it was a great idea.
The problem is seperating those fake cry babies who really just plan change the story and the ones who tell the truth. Anyone can be upset over something little or maybe its not even the vendors fault. Next thing you know people would be doing nothing but bitching about vendors. I do agree though, don't get me wrong. Would be nice to know whats going on with what vendors. I think in the last case (we all know what thread) it was the first time with that vendor.

Originally Posted by badg1rl
i think as long as a vendor has the chance to voice their side its all good. only reason i say this is because sometimes a post will get locked and there is a totally legitimate explanation for something. based on misunderstandings, people SOMETIMES make posts without contacting the vendor, or without trying to work things out...they will vent...then the post gets locked and the vendor all the while could have handled the issue. etc.
Awesome point.

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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:57 PM
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maybe send pm of complaint to mod, mod contacts vendor, if no resolution, negative feed back.... easy solution right there
Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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The website makes money off of vendors, but doesn't off of normal members.
Hence the Vendor Protection rule.
Can't really blame Jonel on that one, the guy's GOT to make money off of this someway. I don't think he's rollin in dough by selling $2 Cobaltss.net decals. (BTW, I LOOOOVVVE that)

And the mods are just doing their job and enforcing the site rules, I'm sure some of them feel the same way as you guys and would rejoice in the ability to thrash a crappy vendor once and awhile. But that's why they're mods...because they can set aside that desire and do what they need to.

THe original Idea of a vendor rating system has been suggested before, not sure what happened to that



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