Ok guys i will be up there on the 19th hanging out so if anyone wants a tune let me know prices are

LNF 300
LSJ 220
LE5 220
L61 220

Remember LNF guys the benifets of going trifecta over HPT is the infinaboot, where you can turn the boost up by pressing a button.

if yall have any questions let me know,

Thanks guys

Justin

 

What's a LFN and infinaboot?

All the highest horsepower cars on the site are HPT tuned, and I think I can do 08-10 cobalts now with the recent HPT beta I just got. Just sayin. ;-)

 

My bad LNF sorry i was up late last night with putting on the SC kit but infinaboost is the tune from trifecta

 

so is an hp tune cheaper than a trifecta then

 

Yeah. It is. :p

220 for LSJ (with wideband) and 250 for LNF. First LNF I tune is gonna get a price break, and preferably someone local so I can play with it alot before I go selling em to everyone.

 

well if you havent tuned anyone by the time i have drivin another 500 miles or so then i might just be the one

 

I'd be glad to check it out. I haven't loaded up the HPT beta on my laptop yet but it's supposed to unlock 08-10 from what I've been hearing.

 

not to bash you paul, but im sure vince will out tune you when it comes to t he TC, switchable tunes mans, you cant beat that, not to mention 28psi...ur limited by what HPT has not unlocked

 

A: Switchable tunes are a gimmick. It's cool in theory but really the only reason to do that is to sandbag when racing for cash. I honestly can't think of why I'd want a stock tune and a racing tune when I'm gonna leave it on racing 99% of the time.

B: This has been discussed in the HPT Vs Trifecta thread in the LSJ section, but HPT tunes have been shown to make more power than Trifecta on both platforms. Just ask BYT or Blueberry.

More boost is not better all the time, fool. Pushing the turbo that hard = bad, especially since all that extra boost is causing higher intake temps and more wear on the turbo.

 

and then you said

im sorry, maybe im a newb......but ...isnt the second statement the answer to the first?

 

I don't think when your driving on a daily basis your not driving like a maniac. When I drive around I barely get into boost, and thats with me trying not to..... its very hard lol

 

Not to mention launching on 22psi will be easier than launching getting 28psi in 1st gear

 

switchable tunes are a great gimmick. especially for people that like to control when they want the high boost levels, not only that but it doesn't require anything mechanical and on top of that, as i've explained before i always raced and start in low boost, get to a range where i won't spin out then switch. also the switchable tune is not a stock tune, and a tuned set either. they're both custom.
i have my first one set to 16 psi, then the higher boost mode.
i can have the first one set to 22 if i wanted. just up to me. so still not stock tune :p
amazing for traction.
the reason the byt tunes and terminator tunes and all those tunes make more power is said to be because they use a 13 afr, which they say is the proper one for a di engine.
vince states otherwise and said when a customer requested 13, it made less power. he uses 12 also for fuel safety issues. not all states have 93, and on top of that what if we happen to get one that the fuel has issues in it? boom. no bueno.
so idk.

and for last statement, a new intercooler -smirks- i haz , will lower those intake temps.
my iats are still lower than they used to when i had lower boost, and now i have higher boost. will be getting an intercooler spray kit soon too during hot summer days.

as for tuning, i might let you **** with my car, if you wanted.
maybe we can talk something out.

think he means lnf, and infiniboost. lmao.

 

back on topic, im gonna be there so if anyone wants me to tune them let me know a couple day before and paul can say HPT is better all he wants, HPT may be better when you have a tuning god using it, but here is the problem your letting paul tune your car, some random guy where as with trifecta you letting a Company tune your car and if something goes wrong then can get it worked out like say for some reason you ECM ***** up, they will send you a new one, i dont think paul is gonna cough up the money for a new one, also you would want a switchable tune for just cruzing vs racing. i say 50 bux more for all that is worth it

 

Yeah, I'm some random guy who has no idea what he's doing. Clearly. BTW, I haven't seen a single report of a Cobalt ECU getting fried using HPTuners. Not sure about Trifecta's record, but if that's something you're bringing up it's probably happened a couple times.

But whatever, I'm not even going, so if you want your car to be a little fast with a switchable tune, Trifecta is the way to go. If you want the max possible power without the bells and whistles, hit me up.

 

i just wanna know how you can claim that you can make a car faster with your tunes vs trifecta, have you ever put them up against each other, and i wouldnt call you a random guy if you werent jacking my thread lol and as for the ECU issuse i have never heard of one getting fried by trifecta either, but there is always a chance of it when you are reflashing, it is a computer and computers can mess up

 

wtf are you talking about with ecus getting fried?
all it is is an exchange of data.
like when you copy music from a hd to an ipod.
it's not going to get fried.
the main concern with a tune is warranty and engine failure due to a bad tune.
not ecu's.
the only advantage someone like paul has when tuning lsjs is that he has his own a/f ratio gauge and can monitor that. if the trifecta customer doesn't have that, it is a bit of guess work just as if the hptuner customer doesn't have one.

lnfs however have their own a/f built in so trifecta wins in that sector.
also for safety vince richens it up, where as most hp tuners will lean out the di engine to a said perfect lambda of .88.

 

Paul can you make my car faster...pleeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaase

 

in one email i got from vince there was a disclaimer saying that i fatal error can happen on very rare occasions while uploading a tune, if this happens they have back up ECUs in stock and will get one to you ASAP

 

Well, there is an (insanely slight) chance that an ECU can get fried from flashing. I honestly don't know what causes it, but it's more of a concern for older cars, as newer ones tend to have checks in place so HPT stops before it causes damage. (can't speak for Trifecta as I don't know but I'd assume he does as well)

As far as safety is concerned, the tuners aren't running it lean so there's really not a significant risk. It'd be like HPT running 11.8 and Trifecta running 11.0 on LSJs. True it's safer, but you're sacrificing power and you're not running lean in the first place.

Sure, sell it and buy an LNF like Haza did.

 

now why would i go and do something stupid like that? i dont like negative equity...losing money on parts is one thing, but i wont go and take 15-20k loan just to have a car...i can make my base a lot faster with 15-20k, hell i could do it with 5...

 

its a disclaimer.
just like there is disclaimers for everything else.
the chance is slight, and its never been discussed or brought up before.


maybe so, when vince did a 12.8-13 afr the car on the dyno lost power.
he only agreed to it because the car was at a dyno.
when he pushes it down, it makes more. -arms in air-

they leaned it out to 13, because they say its perfect for di.
vince does 12.3, 12.4.
i always look at my afr.
have already seen several blown engines, but oddly enough they all seemed to be 08s.
have seen most on gms1, some on hp tuners and one on trifecta in houston so far.
the one in houston actually had a bad rod to begin with, was determined later.
scott had lots of pics of the engine fix and rebuild through the dealer.
you also gotta keep in mind that vince's main objective is to be safe.
he's literally tuned over 1000 lnfs, and has millions of driving hours on his tune.
can't say the same for hptuners, so safety is a concern when sometimes a bad mix of gas can make it also go boom.
js. like i said if you want to play with my car a bit, thats cool with me but it'll be more testing and r&d for you. i already am set with my tune

 

Yea, I'll let you know. With all the modifications Vince does I'm not sure how HPT is gonna react. He basically rewrites the OS so the data may come out differently than it would on a stock tune.

Plus I'd need the $100 to unlock the car, which I'm guessing you don't want to spend since you're already set haha.