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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 02:15 PM
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The real problem with the Balt

1.) FWD

2.) FWD

3.) FWD

4.) No real aftermarket support


Can anyone here name me a Cobalt that is out of the 11's or even in the low 11's?
How much if it exisit did it cost to do that?
Anyone?
Non sponsered by GM or Hahn or a company with big money? (maybe not Gm right now )

I'm leaving the scene.
I've come to realize that the Balt is not a vehicle meant for fast times.
It started off with promise but it's flaws stem from FWD design mixed with bad choices in parts and flaws in design.

The FWD is the killer followed by the choice of the F35 tranny designed for towing vehicles.

Axels were a mistake.
Non forged Pistons but Forged rods was a stupid move.
Choices in intake cooling was **** poor.
Headers, Exhaust piping route and other integral parts were just wrongly choosen in an effort to turn a family car into a sport coupe. It gets the job done for market approach but for actual performance and moddiblity it lacks in many huge ways.

Performance parts are scarce as no one makes parts for the Balt except a few speciality companies and some of them are under scrutiny from the Cobalt republic for various reasons. Because of this getting the car to 400 means forking 4k to a speciality company or spending more to try to do it your self. And even then your still not out of the 12's unless your a good driver. (which seems there aren't many here)

I'm not just talking out my ass either.
You name it I've done it to the Balt.
Tuning, Slicks, Methanol Injection, Cooling mods, Pulley swaps, Stage Axels, Headers, Downpipes, Exhaust, ST Shifters, Hell I've put nitrous on the car something I said I'd never do. The car will fly and is a match for the majority of the racers here minus a few.
But its nothing impressive in the big scale and is more a hassle then anything.

So I'm going to stop with the Balt and move on to a real project.
A 90 Camaro.
V8 means 4 more cylinders of power.
Parts are easily available.
It's the right design (RWD)
And in the end I'll be happier going faster and doing the things FWD can't.

So thanks for the laughs guys and the fun we had. I'll still be around lurking.

Also,

I'm still the fastest Central Fl Balt.
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 02:16 PM
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i figured this out a long time ago
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 02:16 PM
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um its easy to run 11's and theres plenty of aftermarket to do so. People just dont go the right route to do so.
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by brickerenator
i figured this out a long time ago
I figured this out before I bought the car.
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 02:18 PM
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its not "easy", but its def. not as hard as people make it to be.

OP- get over it, its an entry level FWD car, its going to have its downfalls. and im faster than you, kthxbye
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 02:19 PM
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So what did you run with all those mods?
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
its not "easy", but its def. not as hard as people make it to be.

OP- get over it, its an entry level FWD car, its going to have its downfalls. and im faster than you, kthxbye
Umm I said fastest Central Fl not Arkansa.
Also are you out of the 12's. So case in point.

Your cool dude thou so I won't make fun.
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 02:23 PM
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haha nice stu

good luck with the camaro tho, my friend had a 89 icroc z in h. school and it was a ****** bullit!

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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 02:23 PM
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obviously not an 11
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
its not "easy", but its def. not as hard as people make it to be.

OP- get over it, its an entry level FWD car, its going to have its downfalls. and im faster than you, kthxbye
So what your faster then him...im faster than you and people are faster than me. In racing there is always someone faster. Just like every car has its downfalls, you get use to it and accept it.

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obviously not an 11
so are you in the 11's?
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 02:28 PM
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the new ss/tc i think will b in the able to put down some good times with the stage 3 turbo kit on it. and im not just saying that bcuz i hav a ss/tc. zzp makes a twincharge kit they made like 400+hp with one of there cars. so there is plenty of potential for these cars.
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by turbod ss
the new ss/tc i think will b in the able to put down some good times with the stage 3 turbo kit on it. and im not just saying that bcuz i hav a ss/tc. zzp makes a twincharge kit they made like 400+hp with one of there cars. so there is plenty of potential for these cars.
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 02:34 PM
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rwd is a lot of fun but i still love my ss/tc and when i swap the turbo i think 11s should come easy.
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by WTFBALT
Umm I said fastest Central Fl not Arkansa.
Also are you out of the 12's. So case in point.

Your cool dude thou so I won't make fun.
nope not out of 12's yet, then again i dont even have much done on the power side of things. i just think its dumb when people proclaim themselves "the fastest in xxxx" because anyone could be the fastest in their home town lol

Originally Posted by JWTF2k5
So what your faster then him...im faster than you and people are faster than me. In racing there is always someone faster. Just like every car has its downfalls, you get use to it and accept it.
good job you are faster than a cobalt putting down maybe 250whp.

im not the one bitching and moaning, then shamelessly plugging myself at the end of post

attention ***** maybe?

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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 02:37 PM
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I'm aware of ZZP and the twincharge kit as well as Rebel's (snicker) twin screw kit
Originally Posted by WTFBalt
Because of this getting the car to 400 means forking 4k to a speciality company or spending more to try to do it your self.
And I hope the TC does hit 11's but it still follows the same flaw.
FWD..and Aftermarket support. Unless it's japanese developers will not make parts for it.
And in the home states of America unless it's a V8 vehicle parts are not made for it.
So the Balt falls in this weird space inbetween.

I didn't post this to be rude I am mearly making an observation and saying adios please don't take what I'm saying as being mean or arrogant towards the Balt community.
It's just some stuff I've wanted to say and then let you all know I'm outty.

Also the whole fastest thing stems from another users sig saying he was fastest in a local county so I joked with him about it and I added that there for the group that was in on it.
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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no offense man:

you have 17 posts, noone will even notice if you leave, therefore we dont need a goodbye thread with a plug at the end of your post
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by JWTF2k5
So what your faster then him...im faster than you and people are faster than me. In racing there is always someone faster. Just like every car has its downfalls, you get use to it and accept it.



so are you in the 11's?
Not if your driving a Saleen S7 TT or John Lingifelter's personal Corvette.

Originally Posted by hatrickstu
no offense man:

you have 17 posts, noone will even notice if you leave, therefore we dont need a goodbye thread with a plug at the end of your post
He's like Eminem though Stu....he's "outty".

Totally worth remembering


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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 02:41 PM
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k... bye

seriously, how much can you expect out of a fwd car?

there's a reason the fast drag cars are ALL rwd
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
nope not out of 12's yet, then again i dont even have much done on the power side of things. i just think its dumb when people proclaim themselves "the fastest in xxxx" because anyone could be the fastest in their home town lol



good job you are faster than a cobalt putting down maybe 250whp.

im not the one bitching and moaning, then shamelessly plugging myself at the end of post

attention ***** maybe?

not plugging yourself at the end of the post? but yet you say im faster than you kthxbye in your post i responded to the first time....sure sounds like your plugging yourself. hypocrit maybe???
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
nope not out of 12's yet, then again i dont even have much done on the power side of things. i just think its dumb when people proclaim themselves "the fastest in xxxx" because anyone could be the fastest in their home town lol
I've got the fastest GTO at my place of residence
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JWTF2k5
not plugging yourself at the end of the post? but yet you say im faster than you kthxbye in your post i responded to the first time....sure sounds like your plugging yourself. hypocrit maybe???
kthnxbye is a timeless, sarchastic reply that we non-n00bs have been using for ages now.
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 02:44 PM
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no that was in response to his arrogant needless statement. durka durk
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 02:44 PM
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No the ones who know who I am will know I've been here along time.
I'm Werewolf SS.
The one who got banned for restarting the Motivational Posters Thread cuz one of the mods here is a jack ass.
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 02:45 PM
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gotcha, well i apologize then. still, its an internet forum, we dont need goodbye threads. if people "really know you" then im sure you talk to them other places than here and it could be settled then. waste of bandwidth
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Originally Posted by WTFBALT
No the ones who know who I am will know I've been here along time.
I'm Werewolf SS.
The one who got banned for restarting the Motivational Posters Thread cuz one of the mods here is a jack ass.
ah, you tuned ecotecon18's car.

he's a good chap that ecotecon18's character.



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