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Old 11-15-2010, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by smthomas556
Nick trapped 110 with full boltons and a shitty tune from someone who will remain nameless Nick has not been back since Term started tuning and added the E and meth. I think he can get damn close.
Thinking something and actually doing something are 2 very different things.
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Originally Posted by 09cobalt///SC?
where did u guys go after the dyno ?
Home Most of the guys went to the Pavs.
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
You are diluted if you think your car is faster than FF-ace's. Drewbroo (similar mods but slightly less timing tune) raced the 420 whp 2871 LNF balt and he lost by only one car. Are you on the stock clutch?
FF has slicks? He is welcome to goto the track and better Cmiller's 11.9 at almost 118 Which was on my tune in case you forgot..
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Originally Posted by BYT*SS*TURBO
I did see he only trapped just over 110, Oscar does have a point there. Chris and Oscar trapped over 117 in their Balt's. One on streets and one on slicks.

And again, you have no idea what we were doing with Oscar's car, keep trying to use that. Whatever condition you want to add to your numbers doesn't move you to #1 lol (just busting *****, really not trying to make some war lol)
That was on a tune that made about 60 whp and 60 wrtq less than what it makes now. He was not running my tune back then. Try again.
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Originally Posted by BYT*SS*TURBO
Thinking something and actually doing something are 2 very different things.
Completely agree. My point is his power and torque have improved drastically since that last run.
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Originally Posted by BYT*SS*TURBO
FF has slicks, he is welcome to goto the track and better Cmiller's 11.9 at 117 Which was on my tune in case you forgot..
Cmiller's car also made only 315 whp IIRC. He is an awsome driver at a good track with a very good setup.
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Originally Posted by BYT*SS*TURBO
I did see he only trapped just over 110, Oscar does have a point there. Chris and Oscar trapped over 117 in their Balt's. One on streets and one on slicks.

And again, you have no idea what we were doing with Oscar's car, keep trying to use that. Whatever condition you want to add to your numbers doesn't move you to #1 lol (just busting *****, really not trying to make some war lol)
The trap you see in my sig was last year on my old setup with full bolt ons and a pyskosteve tune. I have my meth and e85 and terminator tune now. I will be going to the track when I get my clutch installed and drs on
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
That was on a tune that made about 60 whp and 60 wrtq less than what it makes now. He was not running my tune back then. Try again.
Don't need to try, you do Trap over 117 in one of your cars, highest I heard was Matt (blueberry) at 115.7. I have a couple customer cars trapping over 117 now...

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Cmiller's car also made only 315 whp IIRC. He is an awsome driver at a good track with a very good setup.
Which is my point, that peak dyno number can swing eitherway depending on the day or who knows what. We both know this. Going to the track and backing it up with some real results is where it's at.

And he put down 315whp without the meth tune, which is what he set the 11.9 @118 with.

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Originally Posted by SCcobaltSS
That was your dyno? Was confused when I saw it.
CF: STD. Smoothing: 5.
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Originally Posted by FF_ace
The trap you see in my sig was last year on my old setup with full bolt ons and a pyskosteve tune. I have my meth and e85 and terminator tune now. I will be going to the track when I get my clutch installed and drs on
Cool, good luck with it!! (I just didn't know the backstory, only saw your sig pic and a few parts of this thread)
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Originally Posted by smthomas556
CF: STD. Smoothing: 5.
So are those your official numbers you are going with?
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Originally Posted by smthomas556
Completely agree. My point is his power and torque have improved drastically since that last run.
Just adding power doesn't make the car go faster at the track, you have to get that to the ground, which is most of the battle in this car LOL.
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Too bad I have an LSJ or I would sit back and let you two destroy each other to see who would earn my business
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Originally Posted by SCcobaltSS
So are those your official numbers you are going with?
Seems like everyone else uses STD conversion.
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Originally Posted by smthomas556
Too bad I have an LSJ or I would sit back and let you two destroy each other to see who would earn my business
Nah, this is our "game" we play. Notice last year we did this and this year we have cars topping 350whp and running into the 11's. Without banter like this, nobody would strive to do better. That is my take and Im sure Dave will agree to a point
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Originally Posted by BYT*SS*TURBO
Don't need to try, you do Trap over 117 in one of your cars, highest I heard was Matt (blueberry) at 115.7. I have a couple customer cars trapping over 117 now...



Which is my point, that peak dyno number can swing eitherway depending on the day or who knows what. We both know this. Going to the track and backing it up with some real results is where it's at.

And he put down 315whp without the meth tune, which is what he set the 11.9 @118 with.
Yeah but Arizona lacks the mine shaft like air you guys in the NE get. Stock LS2 GTOs have run 12.7-12.8 at 110-111 MPH at the track the cmiller uses. They are lucky to run 13.5 at 106-107 out in Arizona.

This dyno does not read high at all either fully bolted LSJs running E-85 and small pulleys made about 20 whp less than has been done on other dynos.
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Originally Posted by BYT*SS*TURBO
Nah, this is our "game" we play. Notice last year we did this and this year we have cars topping 350whp and running into the 11's. Without banter like this, nobody would strive to do better. That is my take and Im sure Dave will agree to a point
I agree 100%. We are not trying to destroy each other but to beat each other so we get better.
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I hear ya, Im not doubting your number at all man Just saying, don't compare to Oscar's play runs at a dyno meet. I will go back with the current tune and back it up with a dynojet number

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I agree 100%. We are not trying to destroy each other but to beat each other so we get better.
TROOF

I don't take it personally and I assume he doesn't either. It's just to keep it pushin

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Originally Posted by Terminator2
Yeah but Arizona lacks the mine shaft like air you guys in the NE get. Stock LS2 GTOs have run 12.7-12.8 at 110-111 MPH at the track the cmiller uses. They are lucky to run 13.5 at 106-107 out in Arizona.

This dyno does not read high at all either fully bolted LSJs running E-85 and small pulleys made about 20 whp less than has been done on other dynos.
Thanks for the last sentence of your post there
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
Yeah but Arizona lacks the mine shaft like air you guys in the NE get. Stock LS2 GTOs have run 12.7-12.8 at 110-111 MPH at the track the cmiller uses. They are lucky to run 13.5 at 106-107 out in Arizona.

This dyno does not read high at all either fully bolted LSJs running E-85 and small pulleys made about 20 whp less than has been done on other dynos.
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
I agree 100%. We are not trying to destroy each other but to beat each other so we get better.
I was being comical gents not serious. Its all good. You cant tell someones demeanor on a computer.
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Originally Posted by smthomas556
Seems like everyone else uses STD conversion.
Yep most use STD corrected smoothing 5. Smoothing can make a bigger difference in peak numbers than corrected vs not corrected because some people's tunes have spikey issues LOL.
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Ive seen quite a few dyno's read lower uncorrected, STD and SAE are almost always within a couple hp, its a minimal difference.
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Originally Posted by smthomas556
I was being comical gents not serious. Its all good. You cant tell someones demeanor on a computer.
I knew you were messing around not sure if BYT did.
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Originally Posted by BYT*SS*TURBO
Ive seen quite a few dyno's read lower uncorrected, STD and SAE are almost always within a couple hp, its a minimal difference.
Did you look at the graph in my sig yet? It is smooth as can be except the massive clutch slip issue LOL. Your car drew birds well this one stopped reading completely LOL. Holds power real nice too 310 whp still at 7K. Not bad considering I could not be there to adjust the tune at all on the dyno. This is the result of just a bunch of street tuning on his car. I bet it had another 5-10 whp easily if the clutch could take it.


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