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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 05:09 PM
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aw you guys suck lol I finally sobered up now, who was the meet, was it fun, a lot of people there?
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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Shitload of people, tons of fun, great shop, great people, good food, and of course the cops ended up showing up.
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 05:11 PM
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Shitload of people, tons of fun, great shop, great people, good food, and of course the cops ended up showing up.
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 05:12 PM
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double post, haha. Yeah, great meet. EXCELLENT food.
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 05:13 PM
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ha...the cops for real...y?
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 05:13 PM
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they said that was the first time they ever had people from a dyno day racing up and down the street lol!!!

here rissa for you!
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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the guy in the mustang said theres other shops around and the have trucks womping around like yesterday...gotta feel wat u have
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 05:25 PM
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hahah thanks!!!! I hate even hearing myself on video tho..ugghhh
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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damn cops always picking on me lol all i was doing was sitting in my car with the flashers on talking on the phone lol
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 06:43 PM
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damn cops always picking on me lol all i was doing was sitting in my car with the flashers on talking on the phone lol
did they pull the guns on you...lol

i haz some pictars too.....give me a few while i copy and paste

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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 06:47 PM
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they had a pretty wimpy fan, and i think that hurt the LSJ guys especially, you could see the numbers drop after consecutive runs.
if thats true, then explain my numbers!!! i made more power each time...with out any changes!!! lol but yes it was still not enough it seemed like, need a moar bigger fan

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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 06:54 PM
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yes that dyno....def needed a bigger fan....my temps got up to 235...really fast...i need to look into some cooling mods...like i said before...maybe a better radiator....or add another fan to the radiator as well as to my intercooler

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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 10:00 PM
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hey guys before i make a thread tell me what you all think about this...

for a long time now i have been considering making my own spacer for the steering rack as well as for the rear trans mount, so i finally got a guy who does machine work and he needed me to work on his car. so he told me to "find out what works" well the best thing for temporary research was to use washers or some type of bushing... then i figured the washers will be easier to work with while fine tuning the size of the spacers...

so i went on over to lowes and bought a few different sizes and thickness of washers (hardened of coarse)

so this is what i came up with so far... i went with 7/16 flat "fender" washers for the steering 4 on each side = approx 1/2in slightly less.
then for the rear mount i used a combo of 3/8 in fender washers for the bottom were it goes against the sub frame, then just regular 3/8 in washers for a total of one fender and two reg's per bolt = approx 3/8 in tall

then for the mount's i also had another idear for that one... im getting sick of all the vibes but need stronger than stock inserts so..... i decided to mod my poly ones while i was at it. i used a 3/8 in drill bit and drilled 4 holes in the poly across from eachother leaving room for more if needed or bigger holes.


why am i sharing this with all of you? well i just got back from the test drive and i just cannot get this grin off my face

im so impressed with the results it unbelivable... the holes made a big difference but i think i might try slightly larger holes maybe 7/16 cause with the a/c on at idle it still shakes just a bit but not with it off.... and for bump steer, what bump steer? lol its completely gone! it even eliminated my trq steer which used to be terrible, also the tilting/rotating of the rear mount i think made the biggest difference out of everything i can now launch the car at 3000 and above with the wot box on the street and it takes off so smooth now its crazy it just spins the tires with out a hop at all not one.

i even decided to go as far as to dump the clutch (which felt so silky smooth) which i could never do. before i had to ride it out or it would hop just a little bit, now nothing at all. so then im like well this is to good to be true so i stop and rev to 3500 and dump then lift then hammer it!!! this was always good for a bucking bronco before... now like butter just rolls the power in and out spinning not hopping

so how much did i pay for all this? $6




ok i know enough talking heres the pics... now i do warn that this is not the best route for the steering as it puts more stress on the bolt and a upgraded grade 5 or higher is recommended if you intended to leave it this way for good...










i will try less washer on the steering rack also. im gonna try 3 next... and maybe drill the holes bigger!

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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 10:08 PM
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hmmh i wanna see the finished thing
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 10:09 PM
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no one could beat my 134 hp to the wheels. who's the big shot now. oh, and if that wasn't enough, how about the 160 tq. i had to leave early, but it was a great meet. glad i left before the cops showed.

The food was the ****. i ate 2 cheeseburgers, nachos, a chili-nacho cheese dog, chips, chocolate, soda and Hater-ade. good ****

i don't have internet at home any more, so wait till monday for pics (i'll upload at work)


so when's the next meet?
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 10:11 PM
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heres all the video i got

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch-6I...e=channel_page

Originally Posted by hungryhip-ccp
hey guys before i make a thread tell me what you all think about this...

for a long time now i have been considering making my own spacer for the steering rack as well as for the rear trans mount, so i finally got a guy who does machine work and he needed me to work on his car. so he told me to "find out what works" well the best thing for temporary research was to use washers or some type of bushing... then i figured the washers will be easier to work with while fine tuning the size of the spacers...

so i went on over to lowes and bought a few different sizes and thickness of washers (hardened of coarse)

so this is what i came up with so far... i went with 7/16 flat "fender" washers for the steering 4 on each side = approx 1/2in slightly less.
then for the rear mount i used a combo of 3/8 in fender washers for the bottom were it goes against the sub frame, then just regular 3/8 in washers for a total of one fender and two reg's per bolt = approx 3/8 in tall

then for the mount's i also had another idear for that one... im getting sick of all the vibes but need stronger than stock inserts so..... i decided to mod my poly ones while i was at it. i used a 3/8 in drill bit and drilled 4 holes in the poly across from eachother leaving room for more if needed or bigger holes.


why am i sharing this with all of you? well i just got back from the test drive and i just cannot get this grin off my face

im so impressed with the results it unbelivable... the holes made a big difference but i think i might try slightly larger holes maybe 7/16 cause with the a/c on at idle it still shakes just a bit but not with it off.... and for bump steer, what bump steer? lol its completely gone! it even eliminated my trq steer which used to be terrible, also the tilting/rotating of the rear mount i think made the biggest difference out of everything i can now launch the car at 3000 and above with the wot box on the street and it takes off so smooth now its crazy it just spins the tires with out a hop at all not one.

i even decided to go as far as to dump the clutch (which felt so silky smooth) which i could never do. before i had to ride it out or it would hop just a little bit, now nothing at all. so then im like well this is to good to be true so i stop and rev to 3500 and dump then lift then hammer it!!! this was always good for a bucking bronco before... now like butter just rolls the power in and out spinning not hopping

so how much did i pay for all this? $6




ok i know enough talking heres the pics... now i do warn that this is not the best route for the steering as it puts more stress on the bolt and a upgraded grade 5 or higher is recommended if you intended to leave it this way for good...

i will try less washer on the steering rack also. im gonna try 3 next... and maybe drill the holes bigger!

hey chris, did u ever get steves bump stops?

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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckweed
hmmh i wanna see the finished thing
it will be billet alum and have machined in recess for the steering rack locators... to be honest i have seen the time attack one now im just having someone make one very very similar.

Originally Posted by RooTBeeR
heres all the video i got

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch-6I...e=channel_page




hey chris, did u ever get steves bump stops?
no, my tire is gonna blow soon lol... ******* stealership wants to steal $56 a piece for em

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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 10:57 PM
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why did you get rid of them to begin with?
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by hungryhip-ccp
it will be billet alum and have machined in recess for the steering rack locators... to be honest i have seen the time attack one now im just having someone make one very very similar.



no, my tire is gonna blow soon lol... ******* stealership wants to steal $56 a piece for em
alright, well i'll remind him, or just go get them myself so they are ready next time we all meet up
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ls1fbody
why did you get rid of them to begin with?
i cut a inch off... it was a failed experiment... lol now it rubs cause of the 235's

i never cut mine like the directions said so finally one day i cut em and now if i load it down or hit big bump it rubs

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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Rissa
Shitload of people, tons of fun, great shop, great people, good food, and of course the cops ended up showing up.
I missed the popo's?!?!

That sux.. Guess i shouldn't have left early...
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 04:23 AM
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Thanks to all of you guys for putting this event on, and making it happen. I had fun, and it was definitely worth the trip to hang out with all of you guys. I love putting faces to the screen names.

The shop was a great shop, with a very professional team can't beat the facilities and the BBQ! Lots of shops around the country dont host with that true kind of hospitality.

As for the people who say there were inconsistent results between cars. Look at the cars I tuned, very similar mods VERY similar power, the inconsistency you guys might see is the variance between the types of cars that were dynod, and how well they were running and or tuned. Sure the numbers were different from what you guys are used to hearing being slung around but now you know how you compare to the 15 or so cars that were up there on Saturday. Of course is your tune is below a 10 to 1 AFR your numbers are going to be crappy LOL

I can say many good things about the fun we all had, and about how cool you all were!
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 04:25 AM
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mmm.... bbq
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by hungryhip-ccp
and my car no matter what would not hold more than 19psi but was spiking 23 and when i left it was boosting 26lbs till redline.... so i dont think they were loading my car right cause i got 288whp and 370wtrq lol its just silly its so stupid no matter what it wouldent make boost... like it had no load on it... then as soon as i left bam 26-27 psi muthafucka...
Interesting that you bring that up, because turbo cars can exhibit different boost sometimes under load and not under load. Usually a load will help it spool up at sooner rpms, but I have seen a few cars that make ~26psi on the street make ~21psi on a non-load bearing dynojet.

Originally Posted by Steven Flit
mmm.... bbq
Yes, the Chili Cheeseburgers were the ****

Originally Posted by hungryhip-ccp
1 1/2 hr on the dyno - $150 from pocket and all i got were some shitty #'s and a burger! mmmm the burgers were so good though
Not true, you got a more stable MAF table out of it. You were probably just obsessed with dynojet numbers for comparison. I mentioned weeks ago how this type of dyno was going to break peoples hearts because all you really see on these forums is a Dynojet Inertia Dyno comparison.

Originally Posted by Karo
Next time you guys want to setup a dyno day / tune day let me know.... I work closely with a Dyno shop in the Torrance area that is KNOWN for all the crazy cars they dyno / tune in the Honda world.... I've been there several times taking customers cars down and testing stuff... they have 3 dynos in house... I'm sure I can get us a good deal if we get a good amount of people to show up...

PS: Nice seeing most of you guys, sorry I took off early, I needed to get back since I had to go somewere yesterday.

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You were there and didn't say Hi you SOB?!

Originally Posted by Buckweed
honestly it prolly couldnt get enough air in the back of that shopw to boost 27
cuz i know some guys with redicoulos numbers boosting 27 and they have huge industrial fans in front of their car when the dyno dont konw if they did on this dyno i didnt hear it


nice finally meeting some one you
Yeah he just sucked all of the air out of the shop and turned it into a space vacuum devoid of atmosphere.......WTF?! LOL

Originally Posted by Omnigear
my car held up on 6 pulls
best run was wen it was hot
that dinky fan 4tl
next dyno n steve comes down
hope its a better fan
Yeah your car was hot as hell when it was done. But you kept making power after power every pull.

Originally Posted by hungryhip-ccp
huh he was bullshitting... my car would hit 12.5 afr and he would shut down the dyno, and im like what? hes all it went lean!!!

danger to teh manifold!!!


Using the true formula for HP/Torque if you look where you make peak HP by RPM you will see that you make it around 5,700rpm.

Then go back and look at how much torque you make at that RPM and you will see that you make roughly 310 lbs of torque. If you then throw that true amount of torque into the equation it will calculate you out to making 336whp @ 5,700rpm.

Horsepower = (Torque*RPM)/5252

336= (310*5700)/5252

Originally Posted by RooTBeeR
if thats true, then explain my numbers!!! i made more power each time...with out any changes!!! lol but yes it was still not enough it seemed like, need a moar bigger fan

Also, Andrew look at yours! You make peak HP @ 6,400 rpm. At that RPM you have 177wtq. calculate that out it means that you really have 215whp @ 6400rpm.

Don't believe me? Look @ 4,000 rpm where you make 186wtq. Calculate that out and you should have 141whp at that rpm, look at their graph and you only have 120whp at that rpm.

Both numbers I picked are sampling at exactly 17.5% lower than the Proper HP formula......... Interesting!

Also since HP and TQ have to equal each other @ 5252rpms, look at your graph. They don't even touch at 5252rpms! They touch at 5,800+ rpms.

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