Clear Image header GP
Thanks for all your comments and for shedding some light. All good points and questions. First, I will edit my original post on page 1 with the pricing.
Next, I want to clarify what we are offering:
this is a picture of the "hi-flow converter":

The converter is built into the down-pipe and will bolt to the header and stock exhaust with no cutting or welding. We call it a hi-flow converter but I guess it was confusing. I should have been calling it a "down-pipe with integrated hi-flow converter".
The "down-pipe" option without the converter looks identical to the above picture but without the converter and is not 304 stainless steel.
So, you do NOT add the price of the off-road pipe to the price of the i-flow converter, they are both independent of one another and both are a direct bolt-in between the header and cat-back exhaust system. The header with hi-temp paint and down-pipe (no converter) is $447.70 for 5 orders.
Now, I will not bash the competition but since they were brought-up as a comparison I do want to comment. Our header is a TRI-Y design. There are four primary tubes, two primary collectors and one final collector. The other brand use a 4 into 1 design with four primary tubes and one collector. The TRI-Y design takes a lot more time to assemble thus, the 4 into 1 header is less expensive too build and can be sold for a lower price than the TRI-Y. We use 14 gage mild steel (.083 wall thickness), the other header is made of 16 gage (.065 wall thickness). We take the extra time to completely debur the inside of all tubes, polsih all the clampmarks from the outside of the tube, do full welds on both sides of the primary tubes and machine the face of the flange flat, where as the other brand is welded on just one side of the flange. We spend a lot more time building our headers because of all the small details other companies choose to pass on. It costs but we believe it's worth the end result.
So many times we have customers ship us another companies header to "clean-up the ports, complete welds, debur the tubes, etc.". The customer may have saved some initial cost but were'nt happy with the results and ended up paying probably more by the time it's all said an done.
Now for some great news, we actually have an Ion coming in Tuesday. We will test fit our TRI-Y header to make sure it fits the same. If so, we will be designing our own 4 into 1 header. We will have the R&D finished Wednesday and I will price it out by Thursday. This will allow us to post a GP you all can compare apples to apples with the other guys.
We welcome anyone to our shop and love to talk shop, give tours and explain and show the small details we know make the difference between an OK header and an Outstanding header.
Give us a call anytime with questions you may have or to schedule a time to come on down.
Dyno should be available within 3 weeks with custom tuning by TriFecta also available at this location.
Thanks again for all your feedback. it's what I needed.
Next, I want to clarify what we are offering:
this is a picture of the "hi-flow converter":

The converter is built into the down-pipe and will bolt to the header and stock exhaust with no cutting or welding. We call it a hi-flow converter but I guess it was confusing. I should have been calling it a "down-pipe with integrated hi-flow converter".
The "down-pipe" option without the converter looks identical to the above picture but without the converter and is not 304 stainless steel.
So, you do NOT add the price of the off-road pipe to the price of the i-flow converter, they are both independent of one another and both are a direct bolt-in between the header and cat-back exhaust system. The header with hi-temp paint and down-pipe (no converter) is $447.70 for 5 orders.
Now, I will not bash the competition but since they were brought-up as a comparison I do want to comment. Our header is a TRI-Y design. There are four primary tubes, two primary collectors and one final collector. The other brand use a 4 into 1 design with four primary tubes and one collector. The TRI-Y design takes a lot more time to assemble thus, the 4 into 1 header is less expensive too build and can be sold for a lower price than the TRI-Y. We use 14 gage mild steel (.083 wall thickness), the other header is made of 16 gage (.065 wall thickness). We take the extra time to completely debur the inside of all tubes, polsih all the clampmarks from the outside of the tube, do full welds on both sides of the primary tubes and machine the face of the flange flat, where as the other brand is welded on just one side of the flange. We spend a lot more time building our headers because of all the small details other companies choose to pass on. It costs but we believe it's worth the end result.
So many times we have customers ship us another companies header to "clean-up the ports, complete welds, debur the tubes, etc.". The customer may have saved some initial cost but were'nt happy with the results and ended up paying probably more by the time it's all said an done.
Now for some great news, we actually have an Ion coming in Tuesday. We will test fit our TRI-Y header to make sure it fits the same. If so, we will be designing our own 4 into 1 header. We will have the R&D finished Wednesday and I will price it out by Thursday. This will allow us to post a GP you all can compare apples to apples with the other guys.
We welcome anyone to our shop and love to talk shop, give tours and explain and show the small details we know make the difference between an OK header and an Outstanding header.
Give us a call anytime with questions you may have or to schedule a time to come on down.Dyno should be available within 3 weeks with custom tuning by TriFecta also available at this location.
Thanks again for all your feedback. it's what I needed.
So if you get the hi flow convertor option, is it just the cat thats 304 SS, or is the whole down pipe 304 stainless?
also, if you buy both header and downpipe do you get the o2 extensions?
also, if you buy both header and downpipe do you get the o2 extensions?
Last edited by hubes; May 24, 2008 at 07:07 PM.
EDIT: See original post for details on new header design.
On the converter, the core is actually 409 stainless as is the shell. We use 304 stainless tubing and the ball/flange is steel as no one makes any in stainless.
I will up-date our site to clarify.
Thanks. Good eye...
On the converter, the core is actually 409 stainless as is the shell. We use 304 stainless tubing and the ball/flange is steel as no one makes any in stainless.
I will up-date our site to clarify.
Thanks. Good eye...
Last edited by ClearImageAuto Dan; May 31, 2008 at 12:18 AM. Reason: New header design available.
so just to clarify, the ball flange is steel, the tubing is 304, the convertor is 409, Im assuming the flange at the cat back end is 304, what about the flex section? and if you get the header ceramic coated does the header half of the ball joint get coated? and if so does it affect sealing?
EDIT See original post for details on new header design.
That would be the raw header and the down-pipe ONLY. We refer to the "down-pipe" as an extended hook-up pipe. A down-pipe is traditionally associated with a turbo. Again, mis-communication in the lingo. The "down-pipe" is the "extended hook-up pipe".
The flange at the end is 304. The tubing is 304, the converter core is 409 (from the manufacturer), and the flex section is aluminized steel. They are available in 304 stainless but it would add $50.00 to the price.
The entire header gets ceramic coated as a unit including the ball/socket and flange. It does not effect sealing as the ball/socket set-up is a gasketless compression fit.
so just to clarify, the ball flange is steel, the tubing is 304, the convertor is 409, Im assuming the flange at the cat back end is 304, what about the flex section? and if you get the header ceramic coated does the header half of the ball joint get coated? and if so does it affect sealing?
The entire header gets ceramic coated as a unit including the ball/socket and flange. It does not effect sealing as the ball/socket set-up is a gasketless compression fit.
Last edited by ClearImageAuto Dan; May 31, 2008 at 12:20 AM. Reason: New header design available.
Up-date: This GP is no longer valid. We have designed a new 4 into 1 header which will allow us to offer a new improved TRI-Y header. Our original TRI-Y header has been dis-continued and re-placed.
Please see the new header sale here:
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/supporting-vendor-deals-group-purchases-133/new-header-down-pipe-sale-114698/
Thanks for all of your feedback. Without it we would not have moved forward with the R&D for a new header.
Please see the new header sale here:
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/supporting-vendor-deals-group-purchases-133/new-header-down-pipe-sale-114698/
Thanks for all of your feedback. Without it we would not have moved forward with the R&D for a new header.
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