DTM2188

Great to see that we may have potentially made it all the way to 11+ people on this group buy. The valve springs have been discounted to $227 USD, savings of about $40-$45 I think. They will not be reduced anymore, they are a one time discount that does not rely on the amount people in the group buy.

USMCFieldMP

iTrader: (1)

Okay... well, I need Valve Springs as well I guess.


EDIT: Okay, so from what i am being told... the head has to come off for the Valve Springs to be changed. If this is true (I was hoping it wasn't) then that screws up everything. If I'm taking off the Head, I wanna change Head Studs and upgrade my Gasket. HMMMM!

JBP

You don't have to worry about down time. If you choose Options 2, You pay for the core up front in combination with the GB price and when you send us your old cams, we'll refund the core cam charge. (No downtime)

Yes, we've reduced the price for our JBP valve springs. Other manufacturers' valve springs do not apply to the discount.

No. The springs are already put at rock bottom price.

No, the head does not need to come off, pending you use our custom spring compressor tool. Click Here

Also, those performing the cam install, we have 3 tools in stock for the first few customers for rental/purchase. Click Here.

We got you covered guys...

USMCFieldMP

iTrader: (1)

Amazing... the Dealer should have something similar to this, Correct? If not, i may just rent yours and have a buddy do it. That's good news! If I don't have to take off the head everything becomes 100x's more simple!

DTM2188

JBP, will I be able to have my cams in my hands for February 7th? I know you said that will begin to get shipped out on the 1st I believe, but I gotta make sure because I really need them for the 7th. I have the money already to pay you guys as well.

DTM2188

Bump

JBP

I've used the dealers in-chassis valve spring installer tool. The kent-moore tool doesn't work on the firewall facing side. It hits the cowl of a cobalt. The tool was meant for a cavalier/sunfire.

ONLY our tool works without interference.

Yes, you're an Option 2 guy. We have 2 pairs of TriFlows done ready to ship!

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Option 1 guys, we have a problem. Option 2 guys, you're unaffected because you are receiving your cams reground. I got off the phone yesterday from GMPP and they've informed us that their stock on blank billets is nil. GMPP's contracted manufacturer is also out of stock and production on the blank billets is stagnent. GMPPs' been informed that their issued resupply date is probably end of March and even then, thats an open-ended promise by their manufacturer at best... Yeah, I know it sucks.

However, I've been in contact with a few foundry's in the surrounding area. I'm contemplating contracting out the work to have our camshafts blanks made locally. Which would definately be a lot quicker and not an open-ended promise. However, the price of the blanks may go up slightly. So now, these blanks are going to be cobalt specific, geniuine JBP spec'd cams. Also, with these custom billet blanks, we can provide better cams out of better material and exceed the JIS FC 25 specs of the GMPP cams.

Basically, what needs to be done at this point is we'd have to cast the cams, have them machined, heat treated and then ground. So far I'm estimating prices of $140-$150CDN/cam ($123-132USD)/cam. You're paying $220CDN now for blanks. With our blanks you'd be paying about $280CDN(est.) for blanks. A possible increase of $60CDN ($52USD). If the price of the blanks does exceed this amount. JBP will probably swallow the remainder of the cost: thats our comitment.

Since this GP is for you guys, I need iOption 1 ppls' feedback.

Do we:

a) wait for the GMPP cams?
b) start casting if the price is around $140-150CDN ($123-132USD)/cam?
c) switch to option 2?

1gmfanatik

How soon after the GB ends will you need the full amount?? I may end up being an option 1 guy, unless I can get a suggestion on how I could be an option 2 with VERY limited downtime. I only have one mode of transportation.

JBP

Both options have no downtime. We send the replacement cams first and then you send back your old cams. No downtime.

DTM2188

Good to hear that I'll be able to get mine in time for my install. Anybody else getting ready to join up.

SSKobald

Ok im alittle confused. I have a few questions 1) if i bought these cams i can use them with just a tune no other supporting mods? - because right now im bone stock 2) i was planing to put GM stage 2 in my car this summer - with stage 2 i would then have to change springs? - i think thats what i was reading- 19 pages is alot to go thru half hour before work. I have a LITTLE cash to play around with this year and would like to take advange fo the group buy when i can. Thanks

EDIT: I will be doing more mods in the future but I figure I should jump on these cams before the GB is over. Since I'll probably want them soon or later anyways.

That Cobalt LT Guy

What about 2.2 cams, Can I get the same price in this group buy for stage 3 2.2 cams?

DTM2188

If you go with the Gm Stage 2, then you should get the valve springs as well. Other than that, you really should be fine. You may not see as much of an increase in performance as some others do their mod level, but you will definatly will still notice it. JBP can you chime in on this as well?

I hope so, that would be a great deal for everyone and could potentially add a lot more people into the group buy. Just have to see what JBP says.

JBP

Yes, if you're going stage 2, you should get the springs.

I hope so, that would be a great deal for everyone and could potentially add a lot more people into the group buy. Just have to see what JBP says.[/QUOTE]

No, the L61 cams are totally different grind and can't be included on this deal.

Option 1 Guys, can I get some input a on my post a couple posts back???

NGalaxyTimmyo

iTrader: (1)

personally I don't mind paying a little bit more for blanks. I mean, when I thought I was going to pay 600+ before, so it's no biggie for me

sunfirejoe

iTrader: (1)

im game for anything, infact im willign to even wait a little longer, if i have to, i could be the last shipped cams as it seems eveyrone else is a hurry, im very laxed, i just know what comes with these cams, :

mmm ferrera valve train

Cobalt30

any chance u guys have cams that will fit the 05 2.2 ecotec ?

SSKobald

How many people are in the GB right now? I never saw a List

DTM2188

Here is where we currently stand with the list.

1. 97 Z Me Go - PAID (Option 1)
2. Edubs - PAID (Option 2)
3. DTM2188 - PAID (Option 2)
4. bamfnss - PAID (Option 1)
5. SororityDemon - PAID (Option 1)
6. Sunfirejoe - PAID (Option 1)
7. NGalaxyTimmyo - PAID (Option 1)
8. uwishuhadmyecotec - PAID (Option 1)
9. USMCFieldMP - PAID (Option 2)

1. 1gmfanatik - Interested (Payment coming next week)
2. JCswoosher2 - Interested
3. Cobalt SSTuner - Interested
4. BlackSS/SC - Interested
5. Ljavy17 - Interested
6. cavy-to-ss - Interested
7. repoman - Interested
8. aeballa6 - In with 8 or more
9. CbYellowSS - Interested
10. Numicus312 - Interested
11. Acidangel5.0 - Interested
12. BLKBlurr06 - Interested
13. takes5tries - PAID (Looking for someone to take his place)
14. SSKobald - Intersted

BLKblurr06

I need to back out unless payment can wait til after febuary, so sorry guys, I really want these cams too, just not a good time right now, thought I could swing it by now, but as of now a few things stand in my way

DTM2188

No problem man, everyone knows that things pop up unexpectedly. Maybe you can put in your deposit and then see how long JBP will allow you to wait to pay off the rest of the balance. That way you can still get in on the GB discounted price, but not have to pay until a little later. Just a thought.

97 Z Me Go

Being they dont have cams for the Option 1 guys...maybe you will be in luck. Im not going to pay my full amount till I know my cams are comming and im assuming thats how they are going to do it.

So whats the deal for the option 1 guys? What if we find GM blanks for you to grind?

And do we have to pay full at the end because if were not getting our product right away i dont think its fair to pay for them in full then either.


Kyle

uwishuhdmyecotec

im in no rush, wasnt plannin to put my cams in until june. i was just going to collect a bunch of internal parts and do it right the first time. so if we wait i dont care and if we dont wait and price goes up 50 i dont car, its goin on the credit card anyways

DTM2188

Bump

1gmfanatik

Damn you're up and on here pretty early..lol..Come on peeps, we need more to commit to this bad azz deal. I will have my 66 in by this friday fo sho..