I want discs because they are easier to maintain mostly.

 

Just to let you know ill be buying the ssbc brakes in the near future

 

They are for looks only, not for performance, which is pretty much the hallmark of cross-drilled rotors. As soon as you start really pushing the car for anything, even just for an auto-x they will begin to overheat. I've known people who've had them fade just during daily driving from the heat buildup. They just don't have the bite that performance brakes should.

Now if you REALLY ask them to perform on a road course......they usually catch fire. Pretty much the only time they don't catch fire is if they fail coming up on a turn and you crash.

 

is everyone missing this ?

 

Do the old sc2 and the cobalts use the same rear axle setup?

 

Ya know, I seem to remember making a thread about this stuff... Just last week!

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/suspension-67/suspension-brake-facts-fe1-fe3-fe5-j41-jm4-jl9-137064/

 

Oh thank you halfcent, I completely forgot about that thread. Any idea on the sc2 axle fitting the cobalts?

 

Help me out, "SC2"? I don't know what SC2 is. Is that the Saturn? If so, then it's a Delta car, so the axles should be completely compatible.

 

I was just quoting elecblue06.

 

Ah, okay. I believe the Saturn SC2 was a J-body car, like the Cavaliers. In that case, no, the parts would not be compatible.

 

thats too much work bro...
and too much money...

...i myself have already looked into this, and trust me its not worth it.

 

I never said that the SSBC brakes were 10" up front, STOCK 4 lug brakes are 10"
The rotors are drilled which reduces their mass and effectiveness, also makes lots of nice spots for them to crack. The stock pads are crazy expensive and they suck, they dont hold up to repeated hard use well. The calipers are VERY heavy. The system has a very small swept area as compared to other systems with comparable sized rotors.

This is why he doesnt have any concerns with the brakes....becuase hes not driving the car hard....If he was dust would be the least of his worries.

No, they are ignoring it. Why bother fabricating up brackets just to use old small brakes? If youre gonna fabricate theres no point in going small unless you want to run 15" wheels. No to mention that I think Saturn calipers mount on the opposite side of the axle as Cobalt ones do, so you wouldnt have a parking brake system, If youre gonna give up the park brake youd be MUCH better off buying new aftermarket calipers than using junkyard Saturn bits.

No they dont, old Saturns are not related to Cobalts.

Me too.

Its not a Delta.

 

thanks MAVEN and sorry Yelloeye, I guess you can call me Osama thread jacker, JK

I knew that drilled rotors have less surface area obviously, but was not so much aware that they were prone to crack

I think I was blinded by my dad's hype of that ZO6, but I am open to all ideas lol

and when I was talking about those SSBC kits, I meant that you should use both kits front and rear, I just didnt say that, thats where our confusion came in

 

Its not only that drilling reduces surface area, its the fact that the Z06 has small pads, and a small "swept area" that is the actual amount of area the pads contact the rotor in, Even with the drilled rotors if you switched a different caliper that used a larger pad setup which covered more area on the rotor you could get better braking. Most aftermarket kits that are the same size as the Z06 brakes have MUCH larger pads, and thats one reason they work better.

Its not all hype, the Z06 is an awesome car, and is pretty much untouchable for the price, brakes are just its biggest weakness.

 

AND I apologized to yelloeye, my bad the OP is Sarbae

 

NP man, this is good stuff!

Thanks for the replies guys.

 

pulling this threat out from the old archives hehehe...

I completed a full conversion, started with rear axle and front hubs from a 2006 SS/NA

I then got new rotors for front & rear, along with new calipers, new E-brake cables, had to change all rubber hoses, so far i'm for about $900

the swap was completed today...we bled all 4 wheels, the pedal is way too low, i tryed driving it around the parking lot, at 10 mph then stomp the brake she wont stop at all, barely slowing her down

any suggestions ?

btw mine is a 2005 Ls none ABS

 

first thing you need to do is exercise the parking brake. you need to put the park brake on and off a bunch of times to adjust the rear calipers.

 

 

Very nice on the work, but to what end? I can't see any good reason to swap to 5x110

 

Seems like to much work I might just go ahead and get the ss for this much worry

 

too much work...now way! i did this. had brackets made for bolting on the SS calipers from here

OverkillEngineeringMotorsports.com

also in the for sale parts area i have a pair of brakects for sale that work on 4 lug cobalts useing saturn s series rear calipers. it was a pretty easy install

 

$210 for just 2 brackets, got a rear axle with hubs and 2 front hubs for $225 @ a local junk yard

 

i have the brackets fro sale in my thread for 50 dollers plus ship. i have 5 lug so couldent use those ones had differnt onces made.

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/part...ersion-252517/

 

I'm sure there's gotta be a proportioning valve problem that needs to be solved along with just getting the mechanical swap done. Drum brakes usually have a "residual valve" that keeps about 10 psi in the lines so that the brake pedal doesnt go to the floor.