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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 12:42 PM
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better tires > all
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by joeworkstoohard
better tires > all
This is teh troof.
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 01:01 PM
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Sentry
What's the best option for a 2.2 sedan to perform to the same standards of it's SS coupe version?

I realize that the struts and springs are interchangeable, would that put it on par, or even close?

I don't just want a drop, I want cornering performance.
Well that depends on honestly what your looking for and how far your looking to go. My signature has my modifications on it. Take a look, that combo has served me well for 20,000 miles more or less. Its been so long I cant remember.

Originally Posted by joeworkstoohard
better tires > all
Tires do make the greatest difference because they are whats contacting the road. However if the suspension doesn't do its job you will end up in the grass or worse the wall. Control of the tires is just as important as the tires themselves.

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Montecarloman found some nice forged rims that were only 14lbs.
Motegi Tracklight 1.0's as a matter of fact, and I'm still a poor bastard. After all this time I still haven't bought them

at myself
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 10:33 PM
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 02:33 AM
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LOL dude 90% of people on here aren't going to do enough to their LS cobalt to even feel the difference between 300 dollar eibachs springs and the ss/sc springs. I have them on my car now, my car handles perfect at even the top speed of the car.

I'm telling you right now, you put a 300 dollar set of Eibachs in your car you better have a 20000 watt sound system because every rut or bump in the road is giong to make your car feel likes its falling apart.
I'm sorry but if I can corner like I can with mine at 107 ( until trifecta time ) for 100 bucks compared to Eibachs 300. I'm all for it.

Personally I think a 2.5 " drop just looks stupid anyways. Sure if your going to keep it in a show room drop that bad boy to the ground. Those huge drop kits totally take out the practicality of it still being a DD car.

""::driving down the local interstate::""" Hmm wow Mcdonals that sure sounds good right now... Ahh dammit its more than a 2" incline I can't pull in or I'll scrape. Oh well .. Wendys' dammit its flat but theres a 2 inch BUMP in the drive way. CAN'T go there I guess lol ::""" Yes that was a exageration but you get the point.

I dont feel the sacrifice in other areas are worth the claimed amazing suspension. Personally I like a BIT of body roll anyways, when used properly you can use it to fliing the car in the next direction.
Go back and read it again.

Pro-kits. Not Sportlines.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 02:25 PM
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AHHH YES, I see it now! LOL

<--- Comments removed, that is a pretty nice kit & pretty affordable as well. Would you say they are better than the stock ss/scs? I'd imagine being a bit lower they would definitely help but what about regarding spring rate?
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 04:10 PM
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Prokits compared to FE5's have the same height in the front, 0.5 inch lower in the back (more level car), and have a progressive rate coil instead of linear. I've had them for 3 years now and remember when I first put them on how I felt it should have come from the factory that way.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Halfcent
Prokits compared to FE5's have the same height in the front, 0.5 inch lower in the back (more level car), and have a progressive rate coil instead of linear. I've had them for 3 years now and remember when I first put them on how I felt it should have come from the factory that way.
and when you put them on, you used a strap wrench.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 05:24 PM
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Damn skippy.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 05:28 PM
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Just upgrade every suspension part available.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 05:29 PM
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Damn skippy.
hey, if i didn't have an impact gun....
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 05:53 PM
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Rear sway bar and front sway bar endlinks make the biggest difference IMO cornering wise...both are highly recommended

followed by a set of springs and Konis or BC coilovers (nicest setup I've seen on these forums so far) and all you should be lacking at that point really is braking.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by IonNinja
Rear sway bar and front sway bar endlinks make the biggest difference IMO cornering wise...both are highly recommended

followed by a set of springs and Konis or BC coilovers (nicest setup I've seen on these forums so far) and all you should be lacking at that point really is braking.
I don't see a lot of people doing much brake conversions on LS and LT's. I would really like to know if it's a night and day difference. At least on the fronts.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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Fronts will be the best upgrade to do on the "base" model, as it is where about 70% of the breaking is done. You will see the most benifit from the front.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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I have every intention of replacing my current brakes with with SSBC's at the next regular wear interval. I would prefer Wilwood or Brembo, but they still don't a Cobalt specific kit.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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I just need to find one at the junk yard.

I'd end up walking away with so many parts it would probably cost me a fortune.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by umrdyldo
I don't see a lot of people doing much brake conversions on LS and LT's. I would really like to know if it's a night and day difference. At least on the fronts.
Well the factory SS rotors are 1.5" larger in diameter and .090" thicker than the factory LS/LT rotors. May not sound like a huge difference but it is an improvement. I've looked at adapting the 5 lug SS parts to my LS and now I'm actually at the point that I'm going to start fabricating and modifying. gtx28 already has parts and hopefully has been plugging away at his project. My only unanswered question to date is will it all fit under my 15"steelies? Gots ta have the sleeper look
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by montecarloman
Well the factory SS rotors are 1.5" larger in diameter ....My only unanswered question to date is will it all fit under my 15"steelies?
No, it won't. You will need 16" minimum for the FE5 brakes to fit. 17" are even better.
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 02:01 AM
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the SS/Na also shares the Fe5 setup correct?

Also would the eibach sportline springs handle better then my stock SS/Na springs?
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by _UnLiMiTeD_
the SS/Na also shares the Fe5 setup correct?

Also would the eibach sportline springs handle better then my stock SS/Na springs?
I'm pretty sure only the SS/SC has FE5 suspension...the 2.4 SS supposedly has FE3 suspension which is what the IRL has.
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by IonNinja
I'm pretty sure only the SS/SC has FE5 suspension...the 2.4 SS supposedly has FE3 suspension which is what the IRL has.
correct, but there is some cross over. the springs and brakes are the same, the steering and shocks and swaybars are different.

Originally Posted by IonNinja
Rear sway bar and front sway bar endlinks make the biggest difference IMO cornering wise...both are highly recommended

followed by a set of springs and Konis or BC coilovers (nicest setup I've seen on these forums so far) and all you should be lacking at that point really is braking.
what rear swaybar?

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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by _UnLiMiTeD_
the SS/Na also shares the Fe5 setup correct?

Also would the eibach sportline springs handle better then my stock SS/Na springs?
While the SS/NA has the FE3 setup, many of the parts are the same as the FE5. And in this case, the brakes are in fact the same.

Sportlines are show springs. There might be some argument over whether or not they handle "better" due to the lower center of gravity. But I would say they are a bit too low to be practical on a daily driver.
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Halfcent
While the SS/NA has the FE3 setup, many of the parts are the same as the FE5. And in this case, the brakes are in fact the same.

Sportlines are show springs. There might be some argument over whether or not they handle "better" due to the lower center of gravity. But I would say they are a bit too low to be practical on a daily driver.
What would you suggest for an lt model? I like the low appearance of the sportline springs, but I do live in Texas, and the roads are not always habitable even for normal suspensions.

You think the SSC or the pro kit springs would be better? Basically I'm a bit sick of the 3" wheel gap I have right now.
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 12:15 PM
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i would like to get rid of my wheel gap and the pro kit wont do that, which springs do you suggest?
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