they have had enough. i have had them for like 2 years and they are riding really rough now. and springs are making noise. they have had probably around 70,000 miles on them. just time for new ones.

 

the tein's should be out soon. i'm waiting for those. worth it IMO

do you have any pics of your car slammed?

 

You may want to take a look at our sale post on the B&G's. Now is the best time to buy them.

Chad

 

18 way adjustable dampening front and rear.. come on eddie! haha jk.. you buy the springs yet? if not let me know my offer still stands..
migs

 

I'm pretty sure I'm going to go with the B&G's when I decide to get coilovers.

 

I don't know if they are different for Cobalts but I think the KW's are a bit outdated in terms of their features. I run them on my Ion and you can only adjust ride height by playing with the spring perch. This is a big issue for ride quality and I wish I was aware of this at the time of my purchase.

Konis also cannot be adjusted without atleast unbolting one side from the car.

What I would like to see is one of these groups come out with a product that has easier adjustability in the rear. Jacking up the car should be plenty, shouldn't have to unbolt anything. If there was a knob that could be placed on the rear shocks, where a simple turn could adjust stiffness...that would be great. Also having the sleeves on the top of the springs, so that you don't have to remove the spring and sleeve to adjust ride height.

And for the fronts provide a form of adjustability other than by the spring perch for the ride height.

These are things I would look for in a coilover setup.

Oh and one last thing, which is just being picky but also allowing the ability to run larger swaybar endlinks on the fronts or be provided with a set with the coilovers. I had to bore out the bolt holes on my KW's to run bwoody endlinks. Even though the coilovers were intended for stock endlinks, you really don't want to take a drill to $1300 coilovers.

 

As far as adjustability being outdated in their features, lets see; Moton, Koni, Bilstien, Ohlins, nor Penske suspensions use adjustable housings like ;example Ksport. They're not needed. Less is more in this case. Even Tein go this right. Aluminum housings, only the Asian coilovers are using this to my knowledge. Aluminum doesn't take impacts very well, possible fracuring. The more adjustments the more to go wrong at the worst time. Rear adjustment, dampers how often do you need to adjust them? An external knob, one more thing to break off from road debri. If the suspension is properly designed for the vehicle, the ride hieght will be dictated.
Does anyone know why coilovers were designed in the first place? No, it was not so you could slam it to the ground.
You know, it's funny when you look at some of these less expensive, but high feature coilovers and you find over 200 hundred applications, but only 2 part #'s for replacement struts!
What is the single most important component to a suspension system? It's the damper. It does all the work =controls the movement and behavior of the wheels to the road surface. The damper is what makes the car handle in a safe and predictable manor. What the damper is doing is something you do not see, or able to measure unless placed it on a dyno for dampers, aka Shock Dyno. This is where the cheap coilovers fail and bad. Ask Ksport or any of the others for independent dyno test of their product and see if you get blown off like many others that have asked.
search ;DGs Autocross Secrets aka Autocross to win;
This is a very informative read. This was posted by allycat sometime ago. Read and you may learn.
Next, google, ksport problems, and read. Then google, kw suspension problems, see the difference.

 

if u want to be technical 36 way, 18 way adjust both rebound and compression so there for 36 way :P.

no i didnt get the springs, car was officially totaled . but i still have B&G's on my camaro, and i love em. need new shocks though, the bilstiens suck. affraid i have to cough up 900+ for koni's . yes people 900+, not 500. over a grand if i want the double adjustable's.

 

Being able to shorten or lengthen the coilover assembly is a preferred method for a street driven car. Adjusting by the spring perch itself (even when not slamming the car to the ground) can cause a large sacrifice in ride quality. Unless you are strictly taking this car to the track, nobody wants to be bounching off the bump stops or shifting weight at every bump in the road. And Ideally you would want adjustability in both places. Several quality companies have this option, in fact the only one I can think of that does not is KW (for the Cobalt). So I disagree that it is "not needed."

Also in regards to the knob on the rear shocks...how exactly would it break? I can't think of anything I plan on runing over that is going to put an adjustment knob at risk. Even then having a place on the shock itself where some type of "key" can be inserted to adjust stiffness would be preferred over having to unbolt the shock.

KW coilovers are nice yes, but IMO they are about $300 overpriced for what you get. From what I have seen so far, BC coilovers seem to have the most complete setup offered for the Cobalt and for a decent price.
http://www.modernperformance.com/pro...oducts_id=1601

 

I'm looking into the b&G's

 

what are the prices on them and how low can each one go? im looking to slam my car for mountain runs and the track

 

mmm... those rear shocks are sexy. Pm sent!

 

There is a GB on teh second page of the GB for teh megan coilovers. They are like $825 shipped or something around that.