What's up, I'm really looking deep into what springs to buy for my 06 cobalt SS/SC . I have narrowed it down to B&G and H&R. I'm looking for a nice even / level drop while I am riding comfortably . All comments and pictured are appreciated , thanks !

 

if your looking for a even drop then neither of these springs are for you. i had both b&gs give the ass a saggy look and the h&rs give the ass a raked look and low front.

cut 1-2 coils off the rear h&rs and it will be good.

B&g


H&R sports


id go with the H&r sports

 

agreed with the h&r sports.

 

I prefer H&R myself, but do NOT cut coils off the springs, they are progressive springs designed at a very specific spring rate to improve ride quality and performance. You throw that all out the window if you cut the spring down. This isnt honda-tech and most people dont subscribe to that kind of stupidity.

 

^^ Are your H&Rs cut in that picture?

 

progressive rate springs? Figures say not. the marketing hype says "progressive design\" bs

and cutting springs is not a big deal. I dont advise it, but its not the end of the world particularly with aftermarket springs that are not progressive.
ps cutting dead coils does nothing. well almost. helps the spring fall out over bumps at the rear...

 

I should clarify; I did not mean I agree with cutting them, I meant I agree with h&r's over b&g's in general. I would just run normal h&r's on my car

 

they weren't cut in the 2nd picture but im still running them cut with my coils and have no issues at all.

 

Not sure I'll ever cut mine, but if you cut the rear springs, how do you get them to continue holding in the bump stops?

 

What do you mean figures say not? And linear springs I could understand being ok with cutting them even though people usually find a way to ruin that as well. lol

 

H&R sports

 

 

they are linear springs; measure linear. are not progressive.

 

you mean they are dual rate springs, not linear springs. They cant be linear because they have dead coils, which clearly shows that they have two rates unlike the stock springs.

 

O mi. I guess you dont understand the purpose of dead coils. Nothing to do with rate as such. They keep a shorter spring for low ride height from falling out when the suspension is in full rebound. dual rate? more bs.

As you clearly dont know, and are quick to jump and tell folks they know know stuff, check this out: you have to compress a spring one inch prior to further compression of another inch when checking and measuring rate in a conventional spring rate checking device. ( google longacre) Dead coils compress immediately within one inch of travel; they are "dead".

next

 

 

I do understand the purpose of the dead coils, hence the reason why i said do NOT cut the springs in the rear. lol You just said in the post above, aint no thang to cut the springs down, yet just posted that its critical to keep the spring from falling out when its in full rebound. And seeing as how you still have two rates on the spring, one being nothing, and the other being something...that would still make it a dual rate spring....which still plays a factor in the way it was designed, whether the secondary rate serves a purpose or not in normal driving conditions.

 

I learned my lesson with lowering springs. I had CM springs on my old LSJ, they don't ride that bad but can't go fast on bad bumps or it'll slam hard. Also, I can't even drive the car during winter. This time I am going for Powell's YYZ.

 

I did as well....

CM springs ride OK, but you hit even the slightest imperfection in the road and you feel like the car is going to fall apart.

I'm much happier with my SS/TC struts / springs and Koni rear shocks.

I'll take ride and handling over looks any day of the week.

 

Honestly when I had CM springs on I didn't notice that, ride was nearly like stock was. On H&R Sports now and they feel a bit stiffer, especially in the rear. Always so tempted to buy some KW coilovers, but those bad boys cost a pretty penny.

 

I didnt think the CM springs were THAT bad, but I made a **** poor choice throwing monroe sensa trac struts on the front of the car as a last minute repair. Wasnt expecting to need the FE5 stuff right then and there when I took the struts off. Parts store solution FTL. That's still eventually something I need to upgrade. H&R springs I've always had great results with though.

 

lol KW those are like...2 grand a set i believe.

 

PA roads blow. That's the main problem, and why I hated ***** footing around in fear of hitting a hole or bump in the road.

 

lol cmon out to jersey this time of year, my friend hit a "pothole" a couple weeks ago and all of the side curtain airbags went off on his new VW lol

 

I mean I'm all for ride quality, but the wheel gap on these cars makes me cringe. I'm not even totally satisfied with H&Rs

Your was always sexy as hell Metallic. My H&Rs never seemed to drop quite that low in the rear unfortunately. Hopefully a powell sway bar weights in down the in back slightly, haha.