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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 12:04 AM
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Pedder question

I know spring rates aren't published, but does anyone here know how much stiffer % wise, Pedders are over stock F&R for TC? Just curious.

I found this on stock springs:

The MacPherson strut independent front suspension uses SS-specific gas-charged twin-tube struts; unique steering knuckles with optimized geometry; 27 N/mm linear coil springs with specific damper tuning; stiffer control arm handling and stabilizer bar bushings; and a direct-acting, 24-mm solid stabilizer bar. At the rear, the SS’s semi-trailing twist beam axle uses monotube gas-charged shocks with specific damper tuning, a 24-mm solid stabilizer bar, stiffer axle bushings and multi-rate coil springs (28-40 N/mm). StabiliTrak electronic stability control and traction control are standard

So, fronts are 155lbs/in and rears are 160-228 lbs/in.

*1N/mm=5.71lb/in

Also, found this on GTO from Pedders Web Site. Could give us a *hint*?


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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ronn
I know spring rates aren't published, but does anyone here know how much stiffer % wise, Pedders are over stock F&R for TC? Just curious.

I found this on stock springs:

The MacPherson strut independent front suspension uses SS-specific gas-charged twin-tube struts; unique steering knuckles with optimized geometry; 27 N/mm linear coil springs with specific damper tuning; stiffer control arm handling and stabilizer bar bushings; and a direct-acting, 24-mm solid stabilizer bar. At the rear, the SS’s semi-trailing twist beam axle uses monotube gas-charged shocks with specific damper tuning, a 24-mm solid stabilizer bar, stiffer axle bushings and multi-rate coil springs (28-40 N/mm). StabiliTrak electronic stability control and traction control are standard

So, fronts are 155lbs/in and rears are 160-228 lbs/in.

*1N/mm=5.71lb/in

Also, found this on GTO from Pedders Web Site. Could give us a *hint*?

Mike @ Pedders sent me this, but I don't think he's talking about the primary spring rate. I highly doubt they're 40% higher.

Our Cobalt drop coils drop approx 1 inch and and are approx 40% stronger.
From what John has said, they are not that far from stock, but the rate of change is different.
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Wangspeed
Mike @ Pedders sent me this, but I don't think he's talking about the primary spring rate. I highly doubt they're 40% higher.



From what John has said, they are not that far from stock, but the rate of change is different.
The fronts are still linear? I take it it's the rears that have a rate of change which may be different. When he said 40% that may be at the full compresion?
My impression is that these are at least 25% stiffer and, from what I've seen with other applications, Pedders seems to up the rate anywhere from 30-50%.
Maybe you can test the rates for us?. We already know the stock rate.
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ronn
The fronts are still linear? I take it it's the rears that have a rate of change which may be different. When he said 40% that may be at the full compresion?
My impression is that these are at least 25% stiffer and, from what I've seen with other applications, Pedders seems to up the rate anywhere from 30-50%.
Maybe you can test the rates for us?. We already know the stock rate.
I'm not gonna test them. I thought about dragging them over to a shop nearby that has a spring rate tester, but honestly, it does me no good. There are no other good options, so there's not much point in it.

There's a good chance that the fronts are progressive. They sure don't look linear. When testing street springs, I would always want measurements from a couple compression points.
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 12:53 PM
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wangspeed loves pedders springs!
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 03:17 PM
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wangspeed loves pedders springs!
That's why I bought em!
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 04:46 PM
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thats why im buying them!
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