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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 07:29 PM
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Im on 235s with pedders and, to me, its the perfect combo. Cutting the stops isnt necessary unless you got coilovers like Stamina said. Personally, I slow down for any bump that I forsee causing an issue. I dont fly around going over stuff like if it wasnt there. I want my suspension to last. Oh, and I did install steering rack spacers to keep the steering rack aligned and not saggy.

Congrats on having the pedders installed OP!
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 07:44 PM
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First off I'm not going to use 235s no need to and they will slow you down acceleration wise. Second I KNOW those won't bottom enough to rub 235's . The pedders only dropped the rear about 3/4" and they're also STIFFER. BTW, the BEST way to solve that *problem*( if you have it?) is to get a wheel with the proper OFFSET which would move he tires INBOARD enough to escape rubbing against the fender lip.
You must not know enough then. You don't have 235's so how do you know they don't rub?

and why did you make this thread if you cut them anyway?
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 07:51 PM
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You must not know enough then. You don't have 235's so how do you know they don't rub?

and why did you make this thread if you cut them anyway?
I just looked at the spacing on my car and I know what 235's are ( I've had them on other cars..didn't like 'em). The 225/40/18 Falken 512 I have measures a 9.1" section width vs a 9.6" section for the 235/40/18. That's a difference of 1/2" or 1/4" on either side. Not enough in my situation to rub the fender lip with 235s. Allowing an additional 1/2" or so of travel (off the rear bump stop in my case) will not make a difference compared to stock bump.
Like I said, the springs are also STIFFER than stock (so they won't bottom as easily) and the Pedders only dropped the rear around 3/4" at most. Having said all this:
1) I won't use 235's 2) They won't work well on the stock 7.5" rim width anyway

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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 08:00 PM
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You don't have them on THIS car. I can use CAPS too.

If you cut them on pedders what are you gonna do if you go lower take the bumpstops out completely?

but whatever it's your car have fun with it

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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 08:20 PM
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Ive been running the 235s with the pedders for a month now. Ill have to go see if they are rubbing. Wouldnt I see signs of this by now? Cause I dont.
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by HB_SS/TC
You don't have them on THIS car. I can use CAPS too.

If you cut them on pedders what are you gonna do if you go lower take the bumpstops out completely?
I don't plan on going any lower.
Sorry if caps bothered you...not tryn to scream at you

Originally Posted by cubaniche
Ive been running the 235s with the pedders for a month now. Ill have to go see if they are rubbing. Wouldnt I see signs of this by now? Cause I dont.

I think he's saying that if I cut my Rear Bump stop (only 1/2" in my case), it would rub on bottoming. My argument is that 1) 1/2" more travel won't make a difference and 2) The Pedders are stiffer and that would *cancel out* that 1/2" of additional travel anyway.

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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 08:36 PM
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your pedders will settle in about another 1/2" with time. (but you knew that) right

you asked for advice we were offering it, you did what you wanted. stop making threads like this then.

once you start making big power you'll know what me and HB are talking about but right now you still seem pretty giddy about 300whp.

all in time young grasshopper.......
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by hungryhip-ccp
your pedders will settle in about another 1/2" with time. (but you knew that) right
I challange you to support that claim. Pure BULLSHIT.

Scroll half way down this link

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=365443

and read this post>>>>

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showpos...3&postcount=17

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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ronn
I wound up cutting the first *ring* off the top in front (about 1/2") and the nub in the rear.
Better to do it now than have to go back in (in front). Some here advised not to cut, but I don't think 1/2" in front would be a problem at all. As far as the rear..I would find it hard to imagine hitting them even not cut with only 1" lowered, but taking the nub off is no big deal there either. The Pedders are being installed right now!
If I could go back, I would do this. Cutting the fronts in half is probably a little much.
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Bumpin Balt
If I could go back, I would do this. Cutting the fronts in half is probably a little much.
I thought so too. I only cut off the first *ring*..about 1/2".
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 09:55 AM
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why cut any bump stops. im on sportlines, with a much softer spring rate, with no cut bumpstops. Ride isnt that bad. Now imagine sitting a little higher with a stiffer spring rate. jeezus itll be like a luxury car
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 11:26 AM
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Why did you bother making this thread? You just seem to be denying any advice that people are giving you and arguing with them that they are wrong.

People on here will very quickly just stop helping you if you have questions on your JUICED up car.
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 11:30 AM
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you could go out and get the poly bump stops from summit and put those in... thats what the s10 crowd does, it gives them about 3inched more travel at the wheels and still protects the car
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Judder
Why did you bother making this thread? You just seem to be denying any advice that people are giving you and arguing with them that they are wrong.

People on here will very quickly just stop helping you if you have questions on your JUICED up car.
Glad I'm not not only one that feels this way
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Judder
Why did you bother making this thread? You just seem to be denying any advice that people are giving you and arguing with them that they are wrong.

People on here will very quickly just stop helping you if you have questions on your JUICED up car.
I DO appreciate all the feed back and it was useful! I decided to take the advice of those who recomended to cut, but I only did that to a lesser degree. I fully respect those who had other opinions..really. Sorry if I offeneded anyone here. My appologies.

After installation I found that the right rear is about 5/8" higher than the left
Any thoughts? I measured using several methods, so I know it's right.
Thanks..and I will be mindful to respect ALL opinions

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mines like that too and many others
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ronn
I DO appreciate all the feed back and it was useful! I decided to take the advice of those who recomended to cut, but I only did that to a lesser degree. I fully respect those who had other opinions..really. Sorry if I offeneded anyone here. My appologies.

After installation I found that the right rear is about 5/8" higher than the left
Any thoughts? I measured using several methods, so I know it's right.
Thanks..and I will be mindful to respect ALL opinions
Same problem here.
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by arman14
Same problem here.

WOW..now that's interesting..makes no sense...unless the passenger side was higher to begin with! I didn't measure before and after..just use the "finger method" on one side only to get a feel for the drop.
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 01:58 PM
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Dont cut bump stops. period. the end. Bump stops are there to protect the struts and shocks....regardless of what springs you have on the dtruts and shock only like to be compressed so far. I have NEVER cut bumpstops on ANY spring install Ive done any any Cobalt regardless of the spring. never had any complaints.


And as far as sitting weird.......

Ive had pedders on longer(beginning of '09) and probably gone more miles(25K+) as well than anyone on here and my car only has less than 1/4" difference side to side....(probably more like 1/8" when its not full of tools )
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Maven
Dont cut bump stops. period. the end. Bump stops are there to protect the struts and shocks....regardless of what springs you have on the dtruts and shock only like to be compressed so far. I have NEVER cut bumpstops on ANY spring install Ive done any any Cobalt regardless of the spring. never had any complaints.


And as far as sitting weird.......

Ive had pedders on longer(beginning of '09) and probably gone more miles(25K+) as well than anyone on here and my car only has less than 1/4" difference side to side....(probably more like 1/8" when its not full of tools )
Well, I'm going to go back in to check. What could I have done wrong? The rear is straight forward? BTW, you don't check PMs..but don't list your e mail anywhere either.

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mines like that too and many others
Any theories as to why?
At first I thought the body work could be *off* (rear qtr panel tweaked?)..but I made other measurements too. 5/8" difference is a bit much..almost FU&&KN stock!

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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ronn
WOW..now that's interesting..makes no sense...unless the passenger side was higher to begin with! I didn't measure before and after..just use the "finger method" on one side only to get a feel for the drop.
Oh my bad, I misread the other post
The rear drivers side seats higher on mine.
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 03:04 PM
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Mine are the same as mavens sits the same side to side
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 03:36 PM
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i think mavens the reason why i know to not listen to people and dont cut the bumpstops. it just makes sense. There that length for a reason for your shocks. Dont ****** cut em. end of story
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 03:59 PM
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Are the bump stops seated all the way into the springs on both sides Ronn?
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 04:08 PM
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i think mavens the reason why i know to not listen to people and dont cut the bumpstops. it just makes sense. There that length for a reason for your shocks. Dont ****** cut em. end of story
Thanks but the deed is already done as far as the bump stops go. Car runs fine and I have run over big dips and bumps with no problems so far. As you can see I have now asked another question on this thread relating to an uneven ride height in the REAR. I'm sure you realize that this has NOTHING to do with the bump stops.

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Are the bump stops seated all the way into the springs on both sides Ronn?
You mean the plates...yes. I take it, if there was a problem there it would be uneven seating on the side that's higher up. I think I'm going to switch the springs for ***** and giggles.

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