errr at the CED meet last year I was chasing powell onto a highway entrance and got my car on 3 wheels hahha. kretty was behind me going...what parts do you have, i want them!

 

Lifting the rear inside wheel is normal on most FWD cars. Having a stiff rear bar, or short droop coilovers will exaggerate this even more.

It's not necessarily a bad thing on the track, but on the street, it can mean a rougher ride.

 

ive never had it slide out but ive had the back tires screamin on an on ramp before lol

 

I never said it was bad, just saying it would not of happened with out the hardcore bar haha. I love it.

 

That what I'm saying...don't install the bar by jacking up one side at a time...you'll twist it!
Are you saying that can't be done? It sure as hell can.

 

And it will be completely unloaded once the beam is not twisted. Not possible to preload, unless you do something like shim it. There are no end links to deal with. It is directly mounted to the beam.

 

^^x2 so get over it lol

 

HMMM...
So you're saying then, that you CAN jack the car up one side at a time and put it on?
WHY PUT THE HARD CORE BAR ON UNLESS IT TWISTS?. If it didn't, it wouldn't work at all! In order for the bar to offer resistance when one side loads up in cornering, it has to have torsional force applied. It can only do that by twisting. Am I missing something here? I'm open to being educated.

 

you want the answer on how it works look it up. i dont even think it would line up properly one at a time.

 

Perhaps you're right.

 

Let's just say for argument's sake that someone really decides to put this on one side jacked up at a time, somehow. Once you tighten the lower side (let's say), the other side will be away from the rear beam. As in, you would not be able to tighten it down, unless you put a jack under the sway bar, and match the twist of the rear beam. You are matching the angle of deflection on both the beam and the bar. Once you lower the car, they will once again be sitting at neutral.

You are directly attached to the fulcrum and lever points. There is no (simple, ok, ok, you could shim it, but that's stupid) adjustment possible. Unless the bar or beam are damaged, you cannot preload it.

 

The Perfessor has spoken. Listen to what he says. Well put.

 

wait...why do you even need to jack the car up to put the bar on?

 

I'm relatively skinny, and I still jacked up the rear to put it on. You might be able to do it without jacking it up, but that just seems like you're making life hard on yourself.

 

uhh idk Im not that skinny and i fit under the car just fine. But I think I was stock springs.

 

just makes it easier lol

 

Definetly a rougher ride on the street, I'm only on a Powell Street Bar + Pedders and it really stiffend up the back you can really feel it on uneven roads and angled approaches to speeds bumps. I don't know how you guys with Hardcore bars can drive on the street

 

Still want a hardcore bar ugh

 

USE Jack stands

 

just crawl under the damn car :-p

 

Anytime you're going to stick any part of your body under the car, you should be using jack stands. I kind of assume people are doing that, but I suppose there's always someone that wants to test Darwinism.

 

darwinism is great, they just need to die, not use the hospitals :/ saving darwinism people just makes them procreating more possible :/

 

Swaybars don't affect the ride quality too much. Plus my daily route consists of some pretty nice roads.

 

ya you may feel a tiny bit of tightness going straight, you will feel some in a corner or going up a hill driveway thing. But until you push the car in a corner, its not bad.

 

i dont drive that much daily like 2-5 miles lol my works 5 mins away so ill be fine i wanna do at least 3-5 track events this year thats why im doing pedders+hardcore bar