SNEAK PEAK: Time Attack Lower Control Arms: Street Version.
Well....Like it says first pics of the prototype street version Time Attack Lower Control arms. These will fit any Cobalt, G5 or HHR.(I think Ion too.) They are a factory FE5 lower control arm with the ride(rear) bushing replaced by a greased spherical type joint.
Gives you the benefits of the race-only spherical joint: freer range of motion, not fighting to bend the bushing as with stock or especially poly, eliminates changes in alignment under aggressive driving due to compression of bushing, reduces wheelhop caused by unwanted control arm movement.
But doesnt require the constant maintenance and expensive seasonal replacement that race-spec open/non greased spherical joints do. And doesnt suffer from the wear problems that polyurethane bushings do.
I expect install tomorrow and updates as miles are put on. These are literally one of if not the first ones produced, actual joint and appearance will almost certainly change on production units, and all other normal Disclaimers.
Ring up Josh at OTTPerformance.com and let him know if youre interested!
Gives you the benefits of the race-only spherical joint: freer range of motion, not fighting to bend the bushing as with stock or especially poly, eliminates changes in alignment under aggressive driving due to compression of bushing, reduces wheelhop caused by unwanted control arm movement.
But doesnt require the constant maintenance and expensive seasonal replacement that race-spec open/non greased spherical joints do. And doesnt suffer from the wear problems that polyurethane bushings do.
I expect install tomorrow and updates as miles are put on. These are literally one of if not the first ones produced, actual joint and appearance will almost certainly change on production units, and all other normal Disclaimers.
Ring up Josh at OTTPerformance.com and let him know if youre interested!
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So question... It 'reduces' wheel hop, but would it reduce it as much as my stock ca's do that I have traction bars attached to?
If not... would it benefit me then to purchase these and install traction bars with them? Or...
If not... would it benefit me then to purchase these and install traction bars with them? Or...
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How long do the stock sealed ball joints last? Well untill the seal cracks which could be at any time. Devons car for example had the drivers side crack after not quite 2 years I believe it was. I'm not hating just saying greasable fittings would make these last MUCH longer from my experences. BTW my experences go back over 20 years of being an ASE and GM certified master tech. 
Iwas only giving a suggestion as to how you could make a clearly superior product truly excellent thats all.
Iwas only giving a suggestion as to how you could make a clearly superior product truly excellent thats all.
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How long do the stock sealed ball joints last? Well untill the seal cracks which could be at any time. Devons car for example had the drivers side crack after not quite 2 years I believe it was. I'm not hating just saying greasable fittings would make these last MUCH longer from my experences. BTW my experences go back over 20 years of being an ASE and GM certified master tech. Iwas only giving a suggestion as to how you could make a clearly superior product truly excellent thats all.
Iwas only giving a suggestion as to how you could make a clearly superior product truly excellent thats all.Youve got me beat by 8 years
There is very little room in the subframe control arm pocket to allow fitment of a zerk fitting.
A second design, rebuildable, joint is being considered as well.
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Even 2 years life is still MUCH longer than the alternatives of polyurethane and race-spec spherical joints.
Youve got me beat by 8 years
There is very little room in the subframe control arm pocket to allow fitment of a zerk fitting.
A second design, rebuildable, joint is being considered as well.
Youve got me beat by 8 years
There is very little room in the subframe control arm pocket to allow fitment of a zerk fitting.
A second design, rebuildable, joint is being considered as well.
my guess is when Maven is done testing, Plan A or plan B, (C is rejected racing only) what we produce will provide control arm stability and positive wheel location under high cornering braking and accelleration loads, and will outlast the production FE3/5 bushings, the racing spherical joints, and poly fails immediately, so not even in the game...cant wait for Mavens test report!
i would much rather do it myself. my cobalt is many firsts for me. first new car, first car loan, and the biggest thing, the first car i can buy parts that bolt on without modification. to be honest i feel rather lost with it, id much rather have to build, modify, cut, grind, weld, ect to make something work.
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Even 2 years life is still MUCH longer than the alternatives of polyurethane and race-spec spherical joints.
Youve got me beat by 8 years
There is very little room in the subframe control arm pocket to allow fitment of a zerk fitting.
A second design, rebuildable, joint is being considered as well.
Youve got me beat by 8 years
There is very little room in the subframe control arm pocket to allow fitment of a zerk fitting.
A second design, rebuildable, joint is being considered as well.
A rebuildable one would be the next best thing if its impossible to grease them. Actualy it WOULD be the best thing!
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Glad to hear, stay tuned and keep the feedback coming....you should be happy to know , input from you guys does matter!
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x 2. There is a reason that zerks dont make it in real life, quite apart from the packaging issues here; if we were able to put one in, it would compromise the integrity of the arm itself as we would have to drill into it. The zerk itself become a path for dirt, and can plug up. Lastly, zerks are kinda like tire pressures. some people check them, most dont...
not yet. UPS says its in california now tho..but no estimated delivery date is there
its been raining too frequently to install it now anyway. I need a couple days to do that, along with a big old list of other installs/modifications to be done.
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lol, can you send us the mold as well? i want to cast my own control arms... the sand here gets pretty hot...
