suspension/handling questions
so, after putting 5000 miles on my car, i've found that the front end will tend to slide ALOT in corners, while the back end will stick nicely... why is this, and what can be done to improve/correct the problem?
I am a huge race fan so I do know some about handeling.
Our cars are front heavy, about 60/40 front weight, this makes the front of the car slide or "push."
If you don't believe put weight in the trunk, I had 80lbs and I could feel a small difference.
Ways to improve
anti-sway bar aka anti-roll bar, stops the car drom rolling in corners, keeps all 4 tires planted
lowering springs, lowers center of gravity, easier to turn car
strut bar, helps keep front tires planted, less body flex.
coilovers, I not sure what they would help with, who does know? please educate me.
Our cars are front heavy, about 60/40 front weight, this makes the front of the car slide or "push."
If you don't believe put weight in the trunk, I had 80lbs and I could feel a small difference.
Ways to improve
anti-sway bar aka anti-roll bar, stops the car drom rolling in corners, keeps all 4 tires planted
lowering springs, lowers center of gravity, easier to turn car
strut bar, helps keep front tires planted, less body flex.
coilovers, I not sure what they would help with, who does know? please educate me.
Originally Posted by YSUsteven
anti-sway bar aka anti-roll bar, stops the car drom rolling in corners, keeps all 4 tires planted
lowering springs, lowers center of gravity, easier to turn car
strut bar, helps keep front tires planted, less body flex.
coilovers, I not sure what they would help with, who does know? please educate me.
lowering springs, lowers center of gravity, easier to turn car
strut bar, helps keep front tires planted, less body flex.
coilovers, I not sure what they would help with, who does know? please educate me.
also if you have coilovers you do not need lowering springs.
Its front wheel drive. And front heavy. Get a big rear anti roll bar and that should be the bigest help.
Warrning! A front drive car that brakes its rear tires lose befor its front tends to have a problem with the rear end coming around on you and can be hard to control at the limits of your tires/ suspension.
This is why auto makes set the cars up to brake away in the front first stock.
later
Warrning! A front drive car that brakes its rear tires lose befor its front tends to have a problem with the rear end coming around on you and can be hard to control at the limits of your tires/ suspension.
This is why auto makes set the cars up to brake away in the front first stock.
later
It would help a little if you posted what car specifically you had to really understand what you need done to the car to "fix it".
I have had a lot of experience tuning suspensions and can give you some general ideas.
1. If you want the front end to stay in check better, put a rear sway on, It'll help drastically
2. If you're going to go for all out handling, chose a good set of coilovers to achieve the perfect rid height for handling and also to adjust the stiffness of the dampers. This will allow you to tune your car the way you like to drive it.
3. It is a common misconception that adding a front strut brace will greatly help your handling, but for the most part it is a placebo effect. The brace will make the front of the car stiffer, but when the front pushes, that's the last thing you want.
A lot of people here complain about the car pushing around corners but I personally have not really felt it all that much. Yes it does have some but it is FWD, and with that being said has the least amount of understeer on a FWD car i've ever driven. I don't mean to be rude or offensive but I'm beginning to think a lot of people need to learn how to handle their cars first before throwing all sorts of parts on it.
One of the main reasons the car handles like it does is that manufacturers design the car to scrub speed off while cornering. This is meant for the average driver who might take a corner too hot. By scrubbing off the speed the driver is able to take control again. As said above, if the rear were to come around, the normal driver would not know how to handle it and bye bye car!
Again, I don't know what your level of experience is but try not to design the car for hte back end to come around. If you don't know how to handle it and you're not use to it, it could lead to a huge disaster.
I have had a lot of experience tuning suspensions and can give you some general ideas.
1. If you want the front end to stay in check better, put a rear sway on, It'll help drastically
2. If you're going to go for all out handling, chose a good set of coilovers to achieve the perfect rid height for handling and also to adjust the stiffness of the dampers. This will allow you to tune your car the way you like to drive it.
3. It is a common misconception that adding a front strut brace will greatly help your handling, but for the most part it is a placebo effect. The brace will make the front of the car stiffer, but when the front pushes, that's the last thing you want.
A lot of people here complain about the car pushing around corners but I personally have not really felt it all that much. Yes it does have some but it is FWD, and with that being said has the least amount of understeer on a FWD car i've ever driven. I don't mean to be rude or offensive but I'm beginning to think a lot of people need to learn how to handle their cars first before throwing all sorts of parts on it.
One of the main reasons the car handles like it does is that manufacturers design the car to scrub speed off while cornering. This is meant for the average driver who might take a corner too hot. By scrubbing off the speed the driver is able to take control again. As said above, if the rear were to come around, the normal driver would not know how to handle it and bye bye car!
Again, I don't know what your level of experience is but try not to design the car for hte back end to come around. If you don't know how to handle it and you're not use to it, it could lead to a huge disaster.
Originally Posted by laserblue2006
very good info....only thing is that coilovers allow you to adjust ride height and some more expensive ones allow you to adjust the dampning of the shock.also coilovers have perfomance shocks built in.
also if you have coilovers you do not need lowering springs.
also if you have coilovers you do not need lowering springs.
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