Suspension Springs, Shocks, Brakes

What can trigger an ABS cluster light?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-30-2008, 02:16 PM
  #1  
New Member
Thread Starter
 
joe118969's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-21-08
Location: arizona
Posts: 85
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
What can trigger an ABS cluster light?

After spinning out bending a left lca(and replacing it), and replacing a rear axle complete assy. I still have an abs light. Does this light come on if your brakes aren't completely bled? I still have a little air in the system after bleeding. I know after searching the forum that a bad speed sensor(s) can do this. Is that the electronic sensor(s) at each of the wheels?
Old 12-30-2008, 02:21 PM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
Tank07's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-04-08
Location: Fredericksburg VA
Posts: 2,486
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by joe118969
After spinning out bending a left lca(and replacing it), and replacing a rear axle complete assy. I still have an abs light. Does this light come on if your brakes aren't completely bled? I still have a little air in the system after bleeding. I know after searching the forum that a bad speed sensor(s) can do this. Is that the electronic sensor(s) at each of the wheels?
question.........did u disconnect the battery before doing the work?
Old 12-30-2008, 02:22 PM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
originaladrian's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01-22-06
Location: S.FL
Posts: 8,396
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
make sure ur Ebrake is all the way down
Old 12-30-2008, 02:51 PM
  #4  
New Member
Thread Starter
 
joe118969's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-21-08
Location: arizona
Posts: 85
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Tank07
question.........did u disconnect the battery before doing the work?
No, didn't think it would matter.
Old 12-30-2008, 02:52 PM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
HackAbuse's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-16-05
Location: Central NY
Posts: 11,137
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Could be bad hub sensors if you have abs
Old 12-30-2008, 02:54 PM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
ace921000's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01-04-08
Location: Southlake Tx
Posts: 2,669
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
could have dirt over the abs sensors.
Old 12-30-2008, 02:57 PM
  #7  
Senior Member
 
Tank07's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-04-08
Location: Fredericksburg VA
Posts: 2,486
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by joe118969
No, didn't think it would matter.
disconnect the battery........wait 20 min........reconnect

i cant guarantee this is it......however these electical systems are quirky and u should always disconnect the battery any time a sensor is involved
Old 12-31-2008, 12:22 PM
  #8  
New Member
Thread Starter
 
joe118969's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-21-08
Location: arizona
Posts: 85
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I did that, not sure for that long, but it didn't come back until several hours later. I wonder if a saturn redline rear axle and hubs could have something to do with it. Other then that is there a scan tool that can tell which wheel is causing this?
Old 12-31-2008, 06:49 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Maven's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-25-05
Location: Southern New Jersey
Posts: 7,687
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 5 Posts
Originally Posted by joe118969
I did that, not sure for that long, but it didn't come back until several hours later. I wonder if a saturn redline rear axle and hubs could have something to do with it. Other then that is there a scan tool that can tell which wheel is causing this?
Ions use a Bosch 8.0 ABS, your Cobalt doesnt, if its setting codes for the rear abs.....thats gonna be the issue


A Tech2 or other very high end scan tool is required to read chassis codes.
Old 12-31-2008, 06:57 PM
  #10  
Senior Member
 
qwikredline's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02-03-08
Location: Port Perry Ontario
Posts: 3,454
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by Maven
Ions use a Bosch 8.0 ABS, your Cobalt doesnt, if its setting codes for the rear abs.....thats gonna be the issue


A Tech2 or other very high end scan tool is required to read chassis codes.
up to 05/06 you are okay; after that as Maven will tell you, the abs wheels speed signal counts are different...you could have a part that simply is not compatible, or just a bad wheel signal. All this advice from the couch in front of the fire....good luck happy new year


and no non no Ions 04 up /Cobalts 05/06 use a Delphi abs controller....maybe stolen from bosch but delphi just the same....
Old 12-31-2008, 07:11 PM
  #11  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Maven's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-25-05
Location: Southern New Jersey
Posts: 7,687
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 5 Posts
Originally Posted by qwikredline


and no non no Ions 04 up /Cobalts 05/06 use a Delphi abs controller....maybe stolen from bosch but delphi just the same....
Well I think they call it Delphi Bosch Cooperative or some such nonsense.....What I thought was important was the 8.0 in the Ions vs the 7.4 in the Balt.....unless my Ion info is faulty.
Old 12-31-2008, 07:51 PM
  #12  
Senior Member
 
qwikredline's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02-03-08
Location: Port Perry Ontario
Posts: 3,454
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by Maven
Well I think they call it Delphi Bosch Cooperative or some such nonsense.....What I thought was important was the 8.0 in the Ions vs the 7.4 in the Balt.....unless my Ion info is faulty.
04 Ion= 05 cobalt. the cal is different in the brain the wheel speed signals are the same
Old 01-04-2009, 11:53 PM
  #13  
New Member
Thread Starter
 
joe118969's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-21-08
Location: arizona
Posts: 85
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Well, as I was replacing the rear hubs. I noticed smashed wires running to one of the sensors. And your right qwikredline. Same part numbers for the rear hubs. Irregardless of ion redline or a cobalt ss.
Old 01-05-2009, 04:15 AM
  #14  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Maven's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-25-05
Location: Southern New Jersey
Posts: 7,687
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 5 Posts
Originally Posted by joe118969
...... rear hubs. Irregardless of ion redline ......
"irregardless" isnt a word. /pet peeve
Old 01-05-2009, 11:01 AM
  #15  
Senior Member
 
qwikredline's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02-03-08
Location: Port Perry Ontario
Posts: 3,454
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by Maven
"irregardless" isnt a word. /pet peeve
lawlz i am with you but he found his problem i wont ask why the wires are smashed mroe lawlz
Old 01-05-2009, 11:14 AM
  #16  
Senior Member
 
YellowLT's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-24-05
Location: Maryland
Posts: 2,936
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by qwikredline
lawlz i am with you but he found his problem i wont ask why the wires are smashed mroe lawlz
I cut my rear Driver abs when my spring popped out during an Auto-X
Old 01-05-2009, 11:15 AM
  #17  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Maven's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-25-05
Location: Southern New Jersey
Posts: 7,687
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 5 Posts
Originally Posted by qwikredline
lawlz i am with you but he found his problem i wont ask why the wires are smashed mroe lawlz
He tried to remove the curbing with his wheel.
Old 01-10-2009, 07:21 PM
  #18  
New Member
Thread Starter
 
joe118969's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-21-08
Location: arizona
Posts: 85
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by qwikredline
lawlz i am with you but he found his problem i wont ask why the wires are smashed mroe lawlz
Well actually, the wires were smashed off the "new axle". I believe the used auto parts place did that on atleast one side. They also pinched the brake lines, but probably so fluid couldn't leak.

I reused the harness off my curbed rear axle. Which was fine.
Old 01-12-2009, 03:02 PM
  #19  
Senior Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Switt23's Avatar
 
Join Date: 06-10-06
Location: Omaha, NE
Posts: 3,021
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Is the light just on? Does the ABS kick in when slowing down?

If the abs kicks in when you come to a slow stop is the wheel speed sensor. The computer is showing the wheels traveling at two different speeds and thinks your sliding or have lost traction.

If the light is just on and no abs kicks in, I would say to clean all the sensors.
Old 01-12-2009, 04:00 PM
  #20  
Senior Member
 
qwikredline's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02-03-08
Location: Port Perry Ontario
Posts: 3,454
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by Switt23
Is the light just on? Does the ABS kick in when slowing down?

If the abs kicks in when you come to a slow stop is the wheel speed sensor. The computer is showing the wheels traveling at two different speeds and thinks your sliding or have lost traction.

If the light is just on and no abs kicks in, I would say to clean all the sensors.
good luck cleaning a sensor that is captive in the bearing...
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
ineedacobaltss
Parts
16
11-07-2015 02:25 PM
dennis69
Appearance
9
10-20-2015 04:49 PM
DocSvensk
2.0L LNF Performance Tech
7
09-27-2015 02:24 PM
jmelton327
Drivetrain
2
09-26-2015 10:04 PM
GBRunner24
Featured Car Showcase
3
09-26-2015 06:44 PM



Quick Reply: What can trigger an ABS cluster light?



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:04 AM.