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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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2.0 S/C tune update

Well here is the deal .

Providing you send in your ECM 06's. 05's Order a new flashed ECM and send yours back as a core [You will need a crank relearn If you choose this method .] It's best to send in your ECM .
If your car is stock or CAI/Pulley any size /Header/injectors . Just let us know on the orderform .

You can get your car base lined on a dyno with A/F and send it with your ECM . [ This will help with your tune if you have anything past above . ]

We can tune for any mods that you have done or will plan on doing .

you will need an order sheet http://www.tunetyme.net/orderform.doc

Price is $495 includes return shipping .

BTW this will be an upgrade to anyone with a GM stage kit reflash [ We've seen what they have done and it's the bare minimum]

Due to circumstances out of our control it may take 5-7 business days for you to receive your ECM .

We will shortly be able to do these live at our shop and on the dyno.

And as with all of our tune's If you trade in your Cobalt SS and buy a Trailblazer SS will they give you a tune for the difference ? [That applies to any tune we have BTW]


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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 01:19 PM
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Where at in central NJ are you guys located?
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 01:39 PM
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Where at in central NJ are you guys located?
I do most of my work out of Johnys Garage in Longbranch. But I have 2 dealers who resale my product also Goodyear in Pt Pleasant and SeaCoast Chevy in Wanamassa. I also do some flash tuning from my home in Toms River [ I had surgery and am not allowed in the shop till I get this collar off My father runs it ]
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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Could I come to your Longbranch location to get a full tune then?
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 02:12 PM
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you can get the hp tuner software for the same price. at least the basic package.
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by sneaky
you can get the hp tuner software for the same price. at least the basic package.
Yes you can now let me tell you why it's not a good idea

1. Need a wide band O2 [ not one of those shitty auto meter a/f meters ]
2. Need a Dyno or rent Dyno time 75-85 for three pulls . [ takes us about 7]
3. You can [and many have] destroy your motor . [if you go to lean or rich ]
4. 3-4 days worth of reading and sorting through people's BS to know what to change
5. A laptop [ If it dies between transfers you will have a nice shinny $ 400 Brick for an ECM ] You will need the dealer to reload the new software if that happens
6. Every time you go to the dealer you have to reflash it back to stock . [ not good when you got a smaller pulley and larger injectors on there ]

Look I'm not saying HP is bad I happen to like it . But don't think for one second you will be able to tune your car to 1/2 of the potential that we can.

Lyndon Wester has been tuning GM's for 20 yrs . He has contracts with the Dept of defense . How long do you think it would take you to get to where he or myself are ?

BTW as you mod your car we will update it for free you pay shipping .
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 06:35 PM
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Are ypu going to be doing custom dyno tunes at your shop?
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DTM2188
Could I come to your Longbranch location to get a full tune then?
As soon as I can do it live you will know. We schedule some Dyno time right around the corner from Atco so we can tune it then go to the track .

You can give me a list of your mods and send in your ECM I can bet Lyndon will be within 10% of what we do on the dyno .
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ludicristSS
As soon as I can do it live you will know. We schedule some Dyno time right around the corner from Atco so we can tune it then go to the track .

You can give me a list of your mods and send in your ECM I can bet Lyndon will be within 10% of what we do on the dyno .
That would be perfect, I'm about 15-20 mins. from Atco. But instead of shipping you my ECM, could you just do it at that location when it is available?
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DTM2188
That would be perfect, I'm about 15-20 mins. from Atco. But instead of shipping you my ECM, could you just do it at that location when it is available?
It might be awhile . If your vin is in the system on 06's or all 05's I can order you a ECM based on your mods then you can come to the shop we'll install it and go for some log runs . or put it on the dyno and log it if anything need to be changed we'll take it from there . All I need is a filled out order sheet and I'll have the ECM in 2-3 days . [ you will need a crank relearn done I'll take care of that . but FYI for anyone to far from me you will have to go to your GM dealer and ask them to do it some will do it for free some will charge 1/2 hr labor . Again you only need to do this If I order you an ECM so you'll have 0 down time .
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 01:04 AM
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Sorry for all the questions, but if I just come to your shop with my car, you will be able to tune it that day without having to order another ECM, right? Also, do you guys have Saturday hours?
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 01:18 AM
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I havve 2 pcms so would i be able to send you one of mine for you to tune so i could avoid haveing to do the CASE relearn agian?
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Joewit
I havve 2 pcms so would i be able to send you one of mine for you to tune so i could avoid haveing to do the CASE relearn agian?
That would be fine as long as they both work in your car before you send them . If it's blank I would need your vin and you will need the relearn .
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DTM2188
Sorry for all the questions, but if I just come to your shop with my car, you will be able to tune it that day without having to order another ECM, right? Also, do you guys have Saturday hours?
Questions ????????? Isn't that what these forums are all about ? Fire away to all .....LOL
I will not be able to live flash the car I have to send them to have them done . I can based on your exsisiting mods [ pulley size ,injector ,CAI ,header , ] Develop a tune have it flash you will come to my shop I'll install the PCM and you'll be on you way . It will be a couple of weeks before I can Flash them Live .
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 03:13 PM
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hey ludicristss i live off exit 8 on the nj turnpike so when you're ready to do live flashes let me know.
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by shiftingloco310
hey ludicristss i live off exit 8 on the nj turnpike so when you're ready to do live flashes let me know.
Just doit now then I can and will update it for Free when i can live flash . Or you can wait ??????????????????????????????????? LOL What ever you guys want to do .

If you want I'll meet up with anyone willing to drive to the shop or Toms River area Log your car and have the tune done for it [ Basicly the same as live but you would wait 2-3 days before your PCM would come to me or you and you will put it in and get the relearn done]

FYI to all any GM dealer can do the Relearn so if you worried about going to the chevy dealer and them asking why, go to a pontiac dealer and have it done it's no big deal. They don't care .
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 03:47 PM
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Bro that is rediculous intense is offering it for 200 for a new ecm and a program for 100.
by the way if you have the hp tuner and pay intense to send you a file you can just upload it if the dealer flashes it out for free not waiting, second off those aem wideband gauges are accurate to within .01 i doubt what you have is much better and one more thing any dyno should have a wideband hookup. No offense tuning over the computer doesn't compare to having the car there to tune it.
Bro a NEW GM PCM retails for over 450 . They are swapping your PCM or tunning your's

I'm not starting anything between Intense and TuneTime
Just stating facts .

You have HPtuner how much ? $495
Intense program $100
looks like $595 to me .
+ each time the dealer software updates its $100 and our is free ?

Do you get free updates as you mod your car ?

If you trade in your Cobalt SS and buy a Trailblazer SS will they give you a tune for the difference ? [That applies to any tune we have BTW]
Can they guaranty The dealer cant see it if they do a BCM update ?

AEM gauge is or any gauge start's at 14.7 then goes + or - .
BTW Innovative is the way to go .
If you install a 5 wire 02 W/B then yes that is the same as a dyno or close.
If you install a W/B after a Cat it will be close but never on, as air is trapped in the cat leading to a slighlty false reading . You get my point .

Thats great for intense. I've seen there Dyno chart .
If you don't like the price then don't buy it .
You get what you pay for .
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ludicristSS
Yes you can now let me tell you why it's not a good idea

1. Need a wide band O2 [ not one of those shitty auto meter a/f meters ]
2. Need a Dyno or rent Dyno time 75-85 for three pulls . [ takes us about 7]
3. You can [and many have] destroy your motor . [if you go to lean or rich ]
4. 3-4 days worth of reading and sorting through people's BS to know what to change
5. A laptop [ If it dies between transfers you will have a nice shinny $ 400 Brick for an ECM ] You will need the dealer to reload the new software if that happens
6. Every time you go to the dealer you have to reflash it back to stock . [ not good when you got a smaller pulley and larger injectors on there ]

Look I'm not saying HP is bad I happen to like it . But don't think for one second you will be able to tune your car to 1/2 of the potential that we can.

Lyndon Wester has been tuning GM's for 20 yrs . He has contracts with the Dept of defense . How long do you think it would take you to get to where he or myself are ?

BTW as you mod your car we will update it for free you pay shipping .

so yous saying you can a car that is 1500miles from better than some with hp tuners and the car right in front of them

hahahahahahahaha , your a douche man , for thinking other wise

1) not every car out there will take the same tune and make the same HP , why you think each car dyno's different

2) tuning eac car to its needs in its inviorment is the best way

3) hp tuners has been around along time , so finding someone local to help tune the car should be easy



i dont dubt your tuning abilities , but i seriously think your ignorant to think you can tune everyone's cars better when youve never seen their cars , only the 1's you have had axcess to

that is like me saying i can drive anyones car , no matter than amount of mods and making passes atleast 1 second better , while in some slight cases it might be true

i bet that out of 100 cars id be lucky to get 3-5 cars to go a second faster , or even close

for me think think otherwise is just plain stupid and ignorant , and honestly you thinking you can do better tuning a car youve never see is the same !!!!!!!! stupid and ignorant !!!!!
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 06:26 PM
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 97cavie24ls
3) hp tuners has been around along time , so finding someone local to help tune the car should be easy
Unfortunatly I have had this problem, but...be sure to update us when you can do the tune live. I am definatly interested, but am not quite ready yet for the tune, so when you can do the live tune, let me know. Thanks.
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 08:53 AM
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so yous saying you can a car that is 1500miles from better than some with hp tuners and the car right in front of them

hahahahahahahaha , your a douche man , for thinking other wise

1) not every car out there will take the same tune and make the same HP , why you think each car dyno's different

2) tuning eac car to its needs in its inviorment is the best way

3) hp tuners has been around along time , so finding someone local to help tune the car should be easy



i dont dubt your tuning abilities , but i seriously think your ignorant to think you can tune everyone's cars better when youve never seen their cars , only the 1's you have had axcess to

that is like me saying i can drive anyones car , no matter than amount of mods and making passes atleast 1 second better , while in some slight cases it might be true

i bet that out of 100 cars id be lucky to get 3-5 cars to go a second faster , or even close

for me think think otherwise is just plain stupid and ignorant , and honestly you thinking you can do better tuning a car youve never see is the same !!!!!!!! stupid and ignorant !!!!!
What I'm saying is We can out tune [Safer I might add ] 9 out of 10 people [ Hell 5 out 10 local shop's cost of a Dyno tune ? 500-700] who buy hptuners and think they know what there doing and the cost would never be more then $495 .
Thats my point . I said nothing about you taking it to a shop that has tuned these cars before.

FYI Ware you are isn't a secret we calculate the weather info and ask for your elevation [I know you didn't even look at our order sheet to see what we ask .....ignorant ]
All you saw was a chance to argue with a Supporting vendor and NOT WHAT I POSTED.

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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 09:23 AM
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No your not reading correctly they send you a file you save it on your computer and upload it anytime you get reflashed. You still forget you NEVER SEE THE CAR you only tune from what I send you a tune in person it 20x better than a tune over the internet. By the way you said you've seen the intense dyno charts where are yours with 20+ years of tuning behind you? Free updates? You mean pull up my hp tuners software and add or subtract fuel, and if you mean timing and other stuff I would have to go to a dyno and upload my **** to your computer and then have you tune it? Almost anyone can do that. I sent my dyno's to rev it up b/c their peice was malfunctioning and lets say to keep it short I payed my dealer 800 dollars to fix my pcm they fucked up you think I would ever send it out to someone who has never even seen my car in person you're crazy. Anybody reading this thread go buy the hp tuners ( same price as what this guy is asking without the software)and pay for a custom tune locally it will be to your advantage in the long run. Remeber you get what you pay for HP tuners and custom tune 495+200 for tune=695 your package 495 w/o hp tuners.
Based on what happed to your car I understand your frustration but I didn't do it and We stand behind Everything we sell . Why ? because we use it .

Just because some half bit tuner fucked up your PCM give's you no right to judge me or Westers Garage [ 20 yrs ] .

I guess you like your dealer charging you over retail to fix your PCM [ Retail is 469 + them reinstalling GM software 1 hr book time. 89-120 hr] Means you'll bash then too.

What do I have to see about the car is it a one off that no one else in the world has ? DID GM put a different tune in all of them ? What are you talking about.??????
I have stated Whatever your mods we can tune for them. Pull up you hptuners and add or subtract fuel [ Is it that simple ???? ] Go pay for your local tune [ are you kidding me how many shop's That dyno tune have even seen 2.0s/c let alone tune it ?] When I said updates I didn't say stabs in the dark cause now you have tuning software and your a tuner ?

So your telling me that Westers Garage / Vector motorsports / Fast chips / Lavernois /SLP
Don't know what there doing ?

$495 + 200 for a tune ? Oh that's right some else will tune it over the internet [ Are we going in circles ?] . VIA Email . Or we do it for $495

You do get what you pay for . Even when you use a piggy back controller is that what killed your OEM PCM ?

BTW we don't use HP tuner to tune the PCM .


Bro I'm a supporting vendor. You have gone above and beyond the rules of this forum .

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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 09:31 AM
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Unfortunatly I have had this problem, but...be sure to update us when you can do the tune live. I am definatly interested, but am not quite ready yet for the tune, so when you can do the live tune, let me know. Thanks.
You got it look foward to meeting you .
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 10:03 AM
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Good to here. About how much performance increase do you think we could see...if you can even estimate that I'm not sure.
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by DTM2188
Good to here. About how much performance increase do you think we could see...if you can even estimate that I'm not sure.
We'll to give you an Idea The STS-V has a hand built 4.4 S/C we got 40 rwhp and 20 rwtq [peak 35 from 3500 up ] with no other changes . I will not speculate but you will get a boost in midrange power and based on all of the s/c applications I have done with Lyndon Wester you will be impressed .
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