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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 10:04 AM
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11.5 - 12.2 afr on N/A @ WOT?

I just recently installed my WB AFR gauge and noticed that when I go WOT after about 4500 rpm in 3rd gear the car goes suprisingly rich.

At WOT in first and second, when I hit PE, I'm pulling a 13.3 - 13.6 then when I hit 3rd it flys to 11.5 - 12.2 ...wtf.??

Is that normal for N/A?
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 11:25 AM
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sounds like some factory tunage to me...

people do say that GM runs very rich tunes...
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 11:26 AM
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Indeed this is true but...in first and second gear the tune is fine.

It's just 3rd that it starts running pig rich.

I can change it of course with my FIC but I was just curious if anyone had any opinions?
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 11:32 AM
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that seems to me like your getting leaner, higher afr = leaner

which would make a lot more sense

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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 07cobaltss
that seems to me like your getting leaner, higher afr = leaner

which would make a lot more sense
Ummm I think you miss read that.
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 11:33 AM
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if you would read right hes running 13.3-13.5 in first n second, when he is in third hes getting 11.5-12.2 thats richer.
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 11:35 AM
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reading>me i thought you where saying that in third you where seeing 13.3-13.5 i was like wtf?

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if you would read right hes running 13.3-13.5 in first n second, when he is in third hes getting 11.5-12.2 thats richer.

easy tiger, my mistake. =)

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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 11:37 AM
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No worries.

Anyone know if this is bad for my N/A setup? or will it not hurt for now?
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 07cobaltss
reading>me i thought you where saying that in third you where seeing 13.3-13.5 i was like wtf?




easy tiger, my mistake. =)

I was just saying haha
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 11:41 AM
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No worries.

Anyone know if this is bad for my N/A setup? or will it not hurt for now?
its not going to hurt, its not like you are running dangerously rich

you are leaving some untapped power on the board though from running that rich N/A

if you were running 13.0 - 13.3 AFR at WOT across the table you'd be good
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 11:52 AM
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Time to pull some fuel up top then
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 02:53 AM
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i know my car had a delay of 10 seconds before PE would kick in at WOT
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 10:05 AM
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its probably COT protection coming on. do you have a cat on the car?
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by fast98
its probably COT protection coming on. do you have a cat on the car?
I have a fully legal exhaust.

I just did emissions this sat and passed without trouble.

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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 12:37 PM
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sounds like COT to me.
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by foff667
sounds like COT to me.
I'm sorry but what does COT stand for?

I'm still learning tuning and the terms.
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 03:44 PM
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COT = catalyst over-temperature protection
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 03:50 PM
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Well who knows why it's richening up the mix, but I will hook up my FIC and lean it back down with a little trimming.

We'll see then.

Thanks guys.
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 03:53 PM
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Do the SS/NA have piston protection on them? If so, see if it is set for like 4500 or so maybe that is what is doing it.. either that or I would agree it is probably COT.
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 11:22 AM
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So if I'm getting COT then does that mean I should leave the AFR where it is or ...? Cause I dont' want to kill my brand new cat.
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