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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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yess..cant wait to hear what they have to say!! keep us posted!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 07:32 PM
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Hope it works better than this........

http://www.jetchip.com/products.asp?pid=23394
My buddy has one of these on his SVT Focus and it doesnt seem to make a difference on the butt dyno, about the only thing we can notice with it on apposed to being off is that he can get a bit more tire spin in 2nd. So he is getting a "real" tune pretty soon. Prolly a Diablo with Tom's Tune on it.
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Red06LS
Hope it works better than this........

http://www.jetchip.com/products.asp?pid=23394
My buddy has one of these on his SVT Focus and it doesnt seem to make a difference on the butt dyno, about the only thing we can notice with it on apposed to being off is that he can get a bit more tire spin in 2nd. So he is getting a "real" tune pretty soon. Prolly a Diablo with Tom's Tune on it.
ya this is one of their products I knew to stay away from
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by g5mike
ya this is one of their products I knew to stay away from
Yea when he gets his Diablo we will rip it off and find a sucker to buy it on ebay.
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Red06LS
Yea when he gets his Diablo we will rip it off and find a sucker to buy it on ebay.
yah1 that product sucks,but those controllers usually do.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by g5mike
yah1 that product sucks,but those controllers usually do.
Yea my friend went and got it with out consulting me about it. (im the mod consultant of the group) So thats what he gets.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 05:41 PM
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Got a response

We just released the module. The part #'s are:
Year STAGE 1 STAGE 2 HP-average gains
06-08 2.0L-10706 10706S 8-10
06-08 2.2L-10707 10707S 12-14
06-08 2.4L-10708 10708S 15+
The module attaches to the factory ECU under the hood and modifies fuel and
timing curves for an additional horsepower. The difference between our stage
1 and stage 2 chips and modules is that a stage 1 is designed for a stock
vehicle. Stage 1 requires use of 87 octane or higher fuel. Stage 2 is
designed for a modified vehicle with a free flowing air filter or intake, a
free flowing exhaust, a 180-degree thermostat and you must use at least 91
octane or higher fuel. Stage 2 is more aggressive on the timing curve to
take into consideration the free breathing characteristics, lower
temperature and high-octane fuel. Retail pricing is $309.95 for stage 1,
$319.95 for stage 2. Good in stock. If you have any questions please let
us know.

Thank you

I am not sure totally what this all means... but basically sounds like a 2.2 with intake and exhaust would qualify for the stage 2. I am not fully sure what to take from it all.

what do you guys think?

Response back to Jet

"Thank you for your response. I do have some more questions. I notice that it appears that you receive greater gains from the 2.2 model than you do from the 2.0 SS model. do you have any dyno sheets? for the models? 2.2's are built to run on 87 are you saying that stage 1 would mean running 87 and stage 2 91?

My current 2.2 has GM Performance intake, exhaust manifold, down pipe, and exhaust. I would be curious to see more detailed results and specs. We are a forum of enthusiasts so we are knowledgeable enough to understand exactly what your module does.

Their is some skepticism in a plug and play "chip" due to so many scams and hoaxes out there. Please share as much as you can.

Thank you,"

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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 08:15 PM
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06-08 2.4L-10708 10708S 15+ looks good I am placing an order next week
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 08:35 PM
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What i would like to know is what is the difference in the 2005 and 2006 computers? They responded to my email saying that they are diferent.

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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 09:01 PM
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12 to 14 hp for the 2.2....Whats the dollar per Hp on that (?), im too lazy to do the math. Doesnt seem too bad??
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 09:24 PM
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I'm thinking this is something along your typical HPT tune or vector tune,from the numbers but with the added bonus of being able to remove it at any time,definetly better than there other product I had,just for the simple fact of being able to remove it

Originally Posted by rcmpayne
06-08 2.4L-10708 10708S 15+ looks good I am placing an order next week
are you getting stage2 tune? cause I would get this but there is only 91 0ctane where I live

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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 10:02 PM
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those gains from the 2,4 are VERY interesting, but without anyone who tired it or a dyno graph, it means nothing!

I'd be interested in a stage 1 myself.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by g5mike
I would get this but there is only 91 0ctane where I live
Same here (about the 91 octane) would it still be ok?
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 10:31 PM
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I wish they said Stage 1 has X amount of gain and Stage 2 has X amount of gain instead of them saying the average is X amount of gain.

If I got 15 horses extra that is like having a 2 1/4 catback exhaust with turbo muffler plus a 2 1/4 cat which is over $500 at the muffler shop so the Stage 1 is a really good deal.

You can retain a completely stock look with an extra 15 horses to surprise them.

Some other hidden mods would be one of those Auto Trans Shift kits and a drop in K&N filter.
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I am not 100% sure I would want to go with a Stage 2 module.
I have done a couple cars with the low temp thermostats and my Daytona got rod knock and so did my 88 Fiero V-6. The bearings went out and the oil looked like it was getting fried a lot quicker than normal soon after said mod.

The Daytona did have a bypassed stock fan switch with an adjustable relay that was dialed in to the thermostat.
The Fiero used the Hypertech chip and thermostat, of which the chip altered the fan activation.

I do not know 100% why but they both seemingly did not like to operate under the lower temperature.

It is not 100% that the thermo is the cause, but seeing that both cars did die shortly after, I am very hesitant to do the same to my Cobalt which is a daily driver looking for a little more edge, not looking to hit the track.
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I would also ask if it is ok to have the GMPP exhaust, exhaust manifold, and intake when using the Stage 1. That is the max bolt on mods I want. If I win the lotto I will turbo it.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike85220
I wish they said Stage 1 has X amount of gain and Stage 2 has X amount of gain instead of them saying the average is X amount of gain.

If I got 15 horses extra that is like having a 2 1/4 catback exhaust with turbo muffler plus a 2 1/4 cat which is over $500 at the muffler shop so the Stage 1 is a really good deal.

You can retain a completely stock look with an extra 15 horses to surprise them.

Some other hidden mods would be one of those Auto Trans Shift kits and a drop in K&N filter.
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I am not 100% sure I would want to go with a Stage 2 module.
I have done a couple cars with the low temp thermostats and my Daytona got rod knock and so did my 88 Fiero V-6. The bearings went out and the oil looked like it was getting fried a lot quicker than normal soon after said mod.

The Daytona did have a bypassed stock fan switch with an adjustable relay that was dialed in to the thermostat.
The Fiero used the Hypertech chip and thermostat, of which the chip altered the fan activation.

I do not know 100% why but they both seemingly did not like to operate under the lower temperature.

It is not 100% that the thermo is the cause, but seeing that both cars did die shortly after, I am very hesitant to do the same to my Cobalt which is a daily driver looking for a little more edge, not looking to hit the track.
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I would also ask if it is ok to have the GMPP exhaust, exhaust manifold, and intake when using the Stage 1. That is the max bolt on mods I want. If I win the lotto I will turbo it.
X2 espically on the winning the lotto and buying a turbo, but ide prolly get on a list for new sti and buy a bigger turbo for it but i get ya.

Hopefully we can see some dyno charts or some sort of evedience b/c just saing it isnt enough, espicaly on this site and like you said espically when they make claims but dont say for which stage.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 11:19 PM
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Yea, thats why I asked some more questions.... hopefully they will get back to me soon.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:18 AM
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15 horses is what on average a 2.4 is getting from HPT,so cant wait to see someone with this,I ask what is this about getting a thermostat??????????????????????????????
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 08:54 AM
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hmmm I wonder if its safe to buy the 2.2 06 stage 1 and pop into my 2005 cobalt 2.2 it shouldnt mess up since they both are the same including the ecu
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 09:07 AM
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you know, just as I starting to get skeptical about this thing, mike chimes in and makes me go hmm.. It seems kinda sketchy that they dont differentiate the numbers between the two stages.

Hopefully they will get back to me soon with more specifics
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 09:47 AM
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hmmm I wonder if its safe to buy the 2.2 06 stage 1 and pop into my 2005 cobalt 2.2 it shouldnt mess up since they both are the same including the ecu
Thats what i thought too, but i sent them an email and they responded saying that the 2005 and the 2006 computers are differet. I don't see how, but thats what they said.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 10:09 AM
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Doesnt the cobalt 2.2 2006 have SAI ? If so is that the reason why maybe it doesnt support 2005?
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 10:16 AM
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that looks like a nice piece for the price, i'm def interested in this one
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by xpod666
Doesnt the cobalt 2.2 2006 have SAI ? If so is that the reason why maybe it doesnt support 2005?
not all 06 come with the SAI.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by g5mike
I'm thinking this is something along your typical HPT tune or vector tune,from the numbers but with the added bonus of being able to remove it at any time,definetly better than there other product I had,just for the simple fact of being able to remove it

are you getting stage2 tune? cause I would get this but there is only 91 0ctane where I live
I have not decided yet the highest I can get is 91 as well...
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by lil_kano
not all 06 come with the SAI.
thats true so that couldnt be the reason
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