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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 07:32 PM
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ottp s2 commanding 10.3 afr??? HALP!

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2.5 magnaflow exhaust



my temps peaked as high as 140 but i was commanding the 10.3 as low as 113 degrees.
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 07:43 PM
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get a dual pass and a new tune
what size pulley are you running
at the end of a 3rd gear pull i only get up to about 120 maybe a little less but i am also on meth
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 07:52 PM
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still have a cat?
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 08:01 PM
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No cat, also i understand that temps are moderately high but reread my first post. Im actually commanding 10.8 as low as 100 degrees.


Checked cat over temp stuff and its enabled around 1800 degrees or something which i can verify was definitely no where near that.

also my pe is 1.25 across the board which is a 11.7
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 08:04 PM
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can you post yor tune somewhere so people can look at it and some logs if you have them
you might want to make a thread on hpt forum
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 10:24 PM
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http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showth...349#post223349

thats a link to the tune / scan i took today.

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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 10:30 PM
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The OTTP tune is not commanding 10.3. your fueling is off due to your intake which doesnt have the maf sensor in the proper position causing your car to run rich. get a tuner to dial in your maf or switch intakes.
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 10:35 PM
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yeah i am new to tuning so i cant really help but you maf must be off because you are running lean down low like as lean as 12.4 until you get to about 5 grand and then is goes rich
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Stiner
The OTTP tune is not commanding 10.3. your fueling is off due to your intake which doesnt have the maf sensor in the proper position causing your car to run rich. get a tuner to dial in your maf or switch intakes.
the intake is fine
the car isn't using the maf for calibration at this point in time
improper map calibration has nothing to do with commanded air fuel

i wasn't lying when i said it was commanding 10.3 check the log.
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 10:39 PM
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yeah i am new to tuning so i cant really help but you maf must be off because you are running lean down low like as lean as 12.4 until you get to about 5 grand and then is goes rich
i understand that the tune has some work (i just started working on my ve tables today and discovered the 10.3 afr thing). The car is lean roughly 10 percent under PE im guessing this is because the header hasn't been tuned for yet.
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 10:41 PM
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every time i have loaded an ott tune. it has been spot on. only minor adjustments needed. did you buy this tune from them or get it from someone else?
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 10:45 PM
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the intake is fine
the car isn't using the maf for calibration at this point in time
improper map calibration has nothing to do with commanded air fuel

i wasn't lying when i said it was commanding 10.3 check the log.
UHHHG....OTTP's tune last time I checked commands 11.8 at WOT not 10.3 the reason you see 10.3 in the log is because your MAF sensor is in the wrong place which is common with RAW intakes.


Someone needs to dial in your maf afr error I dont even need to look at your logs to know this

How the **** is it not using the MAF when ottp's tune is MAf only

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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BLAZIN07SS
every time i have loaded an ott tune. it has been spot on. only minor adjustments needed. did you buy this tune from them or get it from someone else?
bought it straight from them. And the tune really is quite amazing, there ve tables are all about 10 % off, which like i said earlier considering the header is pretty damn close.




everyone needs to realize that i am saying that it is the COMMANDED AFR that is off not the actual afr
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 10:52 PM
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So in Power enrich fuel multiplier your numbers are like 1.4XX all the way across?
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Stiner
UHHHG....OTTP's tune last time I checked commands 11.8 at WOT not 10.3 the reason you see 10.3 in the log is because your MAF sensor is in the wrong place which is common with RAW intakes.


Someone needs to dial in your maf afr error I dont even need to look at your logs to know this

How the **** is it not using the MAF when ottp's tune is MAf only
double checked and i mis read the high rpm vs low rpm disable screen
so i was wrong about the VE thing.

but since you don't believe me ill take a screen shot of the car commanding 10.3 afr

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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 10:56 PM
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dont have HPT on this comp so its no use. I just dont believe that in your PE table the numbers are 1.4XX
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Stiner
dont have HPT on this comp so its no use. I just dont believe that in your PE table the numbers are 1.4XX
why do you doubt my intelligence so much?

Why would i come on here posting about how my commanded afr is off if the thing was off in my god damn PE table



AGAIN like i said earlier MY PE TABLE IS SET TO EQ ration of 1.25 which is equal to 11.7 AFR
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 11:11 PM
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What other fuel adders are on? and what is your maf vs afr error % ?

People come on here all the time and say that there tune is fucked when 9 times out of 10 its bad maf placement to blame.

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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Stiner
What other fuel adders are on? and what is your maf vs afr error % ?

People come on here all the time and say that there tune is fucked when 9 times out of 10 its bad maf placement to blame.
i know its not the cat over temp considering the threshold is 1700 degrees

maf afr error is below 10 percent
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 11:23 PM
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dial that in to within 1-2% and you will see almost spot on 11.7
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 11:31 PM
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dial that in to within 1-2% and you will see almost spot on 11.7
you really dont understand anything i am saying do you?

a mistake in the maf table would show up in the fact that i have a greater maf error

actually what yoru suggesting is going to make my car slower since im commanding about 10 % lean which is giving me a 10.8 AFR

if i "dial in" the maf table it will go right down to 10.3 afr
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 11:38 PM
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idk if it works this way but since the car is pretty far off what it is commanding could that make it go rich to keep it safe
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 08:44 AM
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Okay i thought it was 10% lean. The only thing in the tune that would cause this would be a fuel adde. There could be some sort of leak between the maf and the engine as well causing it to dump more fuel

Does it run in the 10's all the way through the rpm or just when its right near the top?

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