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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 07:11 AM
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OH Sorry, But I am looking for lots of low end, and I cant stand turbo'd cars.
are you running nitrous? if so, that doesn't make sense...
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by HunterKiller89
get a smaller turbo then...problem fixed
besides...adding a turbo will drop maybe 5 ft lb of torque from the turbo blocking the exhaust...i think your car can stand losing 5 ft lbs in the 0-2500RPM range in exchange for an extra 90 ft lbs in the 2500-6000RPM range...
just compare a stock torque chart to a turboed torque chart...theres almost no change in the low end
Yea that will work, but he autocross's...if he wants to stay in the class he is in, then he can't go turbo, or that would bump him into the street moddified class...which is full or turbo'd honda's.
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by NJHK
If you're thinking "turbo lag", there are ways to keep from doing this especially with proper turbocharger sizing where you'd be efficient and have virtually no delay.

Not to be rude but have you owned an turbocharged vehicle before?
Yeah I totaled A WRX
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by IonNinja
are you running nitrous? if so, that doesn't make sense...
SHhhh, It's a secret, plus It's hard to see a black bottle, with black interior
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by YellowLT
Yeah I totaled A WRX
Damn lol

Well to each is own I guess, not arguing with you or anything. Just curious.

Good luck with the car.
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by YellowLT
SHhhh, It's a secret, plus It's hard to see a black bottle, with black interior
but nitrous isn't low end power, it doesn't kick in til 3K area which is later than a properly sized turbo would reach full boost.
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by IonNinja
but nitrous isn't low end power, it doesn't kick in til 3K area which is later than a properly sized turbo would reach full boost.
Yeah but I dont use the nitorous during autox its not allowed
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 10:50 PM
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Damn lol

Well to each is own I guess, not arguing with you or anything. Just curious.

Good luck with the car.
Thanks, main reason is I want more of a sleeper keeping it all motor will help
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by IonNinja
but nitrous isn't low end power, it doesn't kick in til 3K area which is later than a properly sized turbo would reach full boost.
The only reason nitrous isn't "low end power" is because most engines and transmissions aren't built to handle it down low. Nitrous is the best way to add low end torque if you're ready for it. It is a constant amount of power. If you're only turning 2000 rpm, then think of the torque you're adding.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by YellowLT
Thanks, main reason is I want more of a sleeper keeping it all motor will help
Gotcha. Good luck.
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by cawpin
The only reason nitrous isn't "low end power" is because most engines and transmissions aren't built to handle it down low. Nitrous is the best way to add low end torque if you're ready for it. It is a constant amount of power. If you're only turning 2000 rpm, then think of the torque you're adding.
the only thing you're going to add spraying nitrous at 2K is an intake manifold with a hole in it to your collection.

nitrous is instant power, its either on or its off...
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 03:44 AM
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progressive shot? idk about various shots of nitrous, but i would imagine a progressive shot wouldnt be horrible for the car at 2kRPMs, tho still not ideal
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 03:47 AM
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progressive shot? idk about various shots of nitrous, but i would imagine a progressive shot wouldnt be horrible for the car at 2kRPMs, tho still not ideal
Progressive nitrous setups progressively spray nitrous. Instead of say, "arm, spray 75 shot", it would slowly step up with nitrous shots like example: 25-50-75 depending on how you set it up. It's so it's not such an instant stress factor on the bottom end, especially the connecting rods.
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 10:10 AM
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So anyway... about this tuning....
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by NJHK
Progressive nitrous setups progressively spray nitrous. Instead of say, "arm, spray 75 shot", it would slowly step up with nitrous shots like example: 25-50-75 depending on how you set it up. It's so it's not such an instant stress factor on the bottom end, especially the connecting rods.
exactly. which is why it would reduce the worry of overstressing the engine at low RPMs

So anyway... about this tuning....
agreed....we're straying from a topic i kinda need info about
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 04:22 PM
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with this tuning, can you change the shift points on a manual?? like if i got some stage 3 cams they go to 8000 rpm with tune. so i dont want to fall off the powerband at 4000ish. so is there a way to tune it to shift into a 5000-6000 rpm range?
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Delta2.2
with this tuning, can you change the shift points on a manual?? like if i got some stage 3 cams they go to 8000 rpm with tune. so i dont want to fall off the powerband at 4000ish. so is there a way to tune it to shift into a 5000-6000 rpm range?
If you have a manual, you have no shift points...you control when you shift.
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 05:26 PM
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o duh, sorry i just brain farted that one. sometimes i dont think before i type
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Delta2.2
o duh, sorry i just brain farted that one. sometimes i dont think before i type
LOL It's ok
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Delta2.2
o duh, sorry i just brain farted that one. sometimes i dont think before i type
That was one hell of a brain fart too man.
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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So does anybody know when the tuning comes out for our cars???
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Delta2.2
with this tuning, can you change the shift points on a manual?? like if i got some stage 3 cams they go to 8000 rpm with tune. so i dont want to fall off the powerband at 4000ish. so is there a way to tune it to shift into a 5000-6000 rpm range?
I think I understood what you were saying...

there is no way to control what RPM the car comes into the next gear at...as said its determined by when u shift.
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by IonNinja
I think I understood what you were saying...

there is no way to control what RPM the car comes into the next gear at...as said its determined by when u shift.
And that is what makes a driver better or worse...
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 08:05 PM
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So looking at this....to use that little handheld ODB plug in thing. We have to find a dealer who uses SCT and has the tune program for the 2.2? What if theres a shop in my area that uses sct tuning but doesn't have the tune for the 2.2? Or do they get updates that include all the current tunes? I'm confused on this.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 05:15 PM
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Just a lil bump
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