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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 08:37 AM
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Another...........

Look what I found

http://www.markostar.com/DayPics/071805/
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 08:46 AM
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Nice! Any deals for the website??

And do you ship to Canada?

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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 03:19 PM
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Nice....competing with the NXT line-up...I like there quick detailer, I use it on my tool box at work.
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 03:21 PM
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sun pics plz
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 06:02 PM
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Got another one from a customer today, I don't have any pictures of those since I had nothing to do with that, I just found it on the net, we are working with a large tool box manufator, they love our Spray Wax



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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 12:29 PM
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Got another one from a customer today, I don't have any pictures of those since I had nothing to do with that, I just found it on the net, we are working with a large tool box manufator, they love our Spray Wax



I'm curretly using the NXT spray quick detailer for my box at work...works pretty good but doesn't last to long.
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 12:42 PM
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I will send you a 4oz bottle of ours, FREE with your order, you will be the judge, if you want to get real technical, remove all the wax, do half with that product and half with ours, let see what last longer, if you want to get even more technical get some before and after photos
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 02:08 PM
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turbo wax has some good insant detailer and tire gel. i will never use a spray on wax though (from any company)
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 03:05 PM
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Any particular reason why not ?
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 03:06 PM
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i'm guessing durability?

though i am a fan of mequires because you can go anywhere and find it you dont have to order it

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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 03:21 PM
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Any particular reason why not ?
because handwaxing is bad. and if you are only spraying it on its useless
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 04:03 PM
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Hummmm. Im not sure I follow you,
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 05:08 PM
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Hummmm. Im not sure I follow you,
if you are applying that by hand its a waste of time and good paint, not saying your product is bad. the simple truth is that hand polishing and waxing is a waste
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 05:16 PM
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I don't agree that is a waste of time ,but I do respect your opinion.
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
if you are applying that by hand its a waste of time and good paint, not saying your product is bad. the simple truth is that hand polishing and waxing is a waste
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I don't agree that is a waste of time ,but I do respect your opinion.
I'll be the one that says it. Hatrickstu, thats could go down as one of the stupidest things I have ever heard.
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 05:43 PM
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I'll be the one that says it. Hatrickstu, thats could go down as one of the stupidest things I have ever heard.
oh really, care to show me some pictures of your paint in direct sunlight if you did it by hand. please tell me you wax your cars by hand, ive seen your before and after pics and its quite evient you use a machine

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I don't agree that is a waste of time ,but I do respect your opinion.
do you apply it by hand or with a machine

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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 07:23 PM
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Let’s take this as a Friendly debate…………..

Let’s take my neighbor as an example; he is a very successful person but it seems that he never has time, he likes to wash his car and likes to have a quick nice temporary protection, if it doesn’t come with a sprayer he won’t use it, he needs his time to play golf, he is the prime customer for a Spray Wax, all he cares is for a temporary protection, he will wax his car once a year. He is a spray wax customer for life, like him there are many many of them, and that is why the spray wax exists, joining him are the hard core guys that go to the car shows very frequently. In other words it is for people that don’t have time and are what some call “lazy”.

Take my other neighbor, he is completely the contrary, he will spend 8 hours on his car, he will go and wash, clay, pre wax, wax and at times will even put two layers of wax, if you try to tell him to use a spray wax he will give you a dirty look, for him it is a border line insult.

There you have to two prime examples of two customers trying to obtain what’s best for them.

Regarding your inquiry, do we use a machine; of course we do, however, not every single time, we do have an Excursion, that is a pretty big truck, every two months or so I will do an real good job on her, when Im in a rush I wash the truck, dry it and quickly give it a pass with the spray wax, Im accomplishing a few things, save time, got the shine, got the temporary protection until the next wax, so as you can see I have accomplished all of my goals at that moment, so to me it is not a waste of time.

I have taken the liberty to provide you some photos, these photos are from our R&D tests they were done on RENTAL CARS, cars that we know nothing about their history and cars that are often very neglected, ALL of them were done by HAND, no tricks, no hypes, as a business owner it is of my sole interest that we do as much tests as we can under many different conditions so my customers benefit from the best product we can make under our roof. Maybe none of the photos are what you are looking for but I hope they prove to you that you can accomplish great results by hand.

Sample work


Rental Cars by hand, wax and pre wax






Rental car, pre wax, wax and 30 days later spray wax



Once we got into another friendly depate about silver colors, we went to the junk yard and found a silver door, all by hand



Another rental car by hand


I hope that helps
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo Wax
I will send you a 4oz bottle of ours, FREE with your order, you will be the judge, if you want to get real technical, remove all the wax, do half with that product and half with ours, let see what last longer, if you want to get even more technical get some before and after photos
Sweet....I'll post pics after I do it....

And my opinion about hand/hard wax and spray wax....I always do a good solid wax once every 6 months then every month the spray wax and once a week the quick detailer. Still keeps the awesome looking shine all year and since the first day I got my car...minus the rock chips in my hood...
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 10:44 PM
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turbowax, i understand your situation with clients and you need to meet their needs. i truly do not mean to insult because you are a very good vendor
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 11:38 PM
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I never took your opinion as an insult, contrary I do appreciate your point of few that's why I call it a "Friendly Debate" we can disagree without calling names or been disrespectful, like they say there's many ways to skin a cat," Chicken from where I come" lol, I'm just hoping that you may change your view or at least think about it, again is all a friendly debate, not to prove anything but you got me thinking................

so I drove 85 miles both ways and got the 1965 Trunk lid that we use for the shows, yes the one side has been prepared, wax, swirl remover ,clay and by machine, the paint is original, the other side we have never ever touch,

so tomorrow at sunlight I will take a series of pictures, one will be of the condition "AS IS" of the trunk lid, the next one I will use straight water to both sides to see what it looks like, then I will ONLY apply to the half of the still original side with our spray wax, then I will water it again to see if we can see ANY difference.

I will do the test with honesty and Integrity, I too want to learn. the test will be very similar to one I did in another Friendly debate, In this occasion my opponent claim that his truck has been without wax for over a year, he stated that applying wax just by hand could do little to nothing, well look at the picture and you will see, you be the judge.



Again is all a Friendly debate, nothing else, and by the way thanks for the kind words, we do try to get the best deals possible for the forum, you guys can Thank Jonny B, he works hard keeping the site going.
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 12:34 AM
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I never took your opinion as an insult, contrary I do appreciate your point of few that's why I call it a "Friendly Debate" we can disagree without calling names or been disrespectful, like they say there's many ways to skin a cat," Chicken from where I come" lol, I'm just hoping that you may change your view or at least think about it, again is all a friendly debate, not to prove anything but you got me thinking................

so I drove 85 miles both ways and got the 1965 Trunk lid that we use for the shows, yes the one side has been prepared, wax, swirl remover ,clay and by machine, the paint is original, the other side we have never ever touch,

so tomorrow at sunlight I will take a series of pictures, one will be of the condition "AS IS" of the trunk lid, the next one I will use straight water to both sides to see what it looks like, then I will ONLY apply to the half of the still original side with our spray wax, then I will water it again to see if we can see ANY difference.

I will do the test with honesty and Integrity, I too want to learn. the test will be very similar to one I did in another Friendly debate, In this occasion my opponent claim that his truck has been without wax for over a year, he stated that applying wax just by hand could do little to nothing, well look at the picture and you will see, you be the judge.



Again is all a Friendly debate, nothing else, and by the way thanks for the kind words, we do try to get the best deals possible for the forum, you guys can Thank Jonny B, he works hard keeping the site going.
so you use a machine! that was my point!
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 12:51 AM
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so you use a machine! that was my point!
He also stated that he hand waxed a truck and it made a difference.

I will do the test with honesty and Integrity, I too want to learn. the test will be very similar to one I did in another Friendly debate, In this occasion my opponent claim that his truck has been without wax for over a year, he stated that applying wax just by hand could do little to nothing, well look at the picture and you will see, you be the judge.
But as said many times we all have our own ways and some think hand waxing does nothing and a machine is better, but for the less educated with a machine, you can easily burn your paint.
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 12:52 AM
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 12:57 AM
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So anyway...can't wait to get my stuff in and get the Balt all prettied up for the club meet and wax the tool box at work.
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 01:00 AM
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He also stated that he hand waxed a truck and it made a difference.



But as said many times we all have our own ways and some think hand waxing does nothing and a machine is better, but for the less educated with a machine, you can easily burn your paint.
how hard is it to do 10 minutes of research and learn how not to do it?

turbo i agree that a hand wax on a truck that hasnt been waxed in a while will make a difference, for sure, but when it comes to repairing paint or even maintaining it well, hands cant compare to machine.

what were you referring to here-

"so I drove 85 miles both ways and got the 1965 Trunk lid that we use for the shows, yes the one side has been prepared, wax, swirl remover ,clay and by machine, the paint is original, the other side we have never ever touch"

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