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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 01:01 AM
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he was saying that he will wax the part thats never been touched and compare it to the side thats been machine preped
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by redlineblueline
he was saying that he will wax the part thats never been touched and compare it to the side thats been machine preped
i would love to see the difference, if the machine user actually tries and uses come good compounding and polish. the difference will be more than notable
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 01:08 AM
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Ok....lets just admit it...a machine hands down is better, but the hole point is you can still do an awesome job by hand.
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 01:21 AM
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Ok....lets just admit it...a machine hands down is better, but the hole point is you can still do an awesome job by hand.
that depends on what your opinion of awesome is. awesome to me means little to no swirls, and fact of the matter is, the longer you go by hand, the more swirls your gonna get. you will never repair paint by hand like you can by machine. so IMO hand finishes are far from awesome. own a black car, and it will become very very apparent

my point, these results will never be acheived by hand, never-




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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 01:23 AM
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^^ Well I own a red car so mines not as noticeable and I understand what you're saying.
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 01:26 AM
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^^ Well I own a red car so mines not as noticeable and I understand what you're saying.
good to see we can come to an agreeance in a mature manner
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 01:27 AM
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what did you do that it got that bad in the first place
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
good to see we can come to an agreeance in a mature manner
For sure....now that we agree were good and hopefuly this post doesn't get locked now.

Originally Posted by redlineblueline
what did you do that it got that bad in the first place
Back and forth on machine vs hand waxing. But it's all resolved now sooo....

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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by redlineblueline
what did you do that it got that bad in the first place
put a high powered halogen on your paint, youd be surprised. i thought my paint was in decent shape after my 2 years of **** hand waxing (wow that sounded wrong). i nearly had a heart attack when i saw it under some strong light.

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For sure....now that we agree were good and hopefuly this post doesn't get locked now.



Back and forth on machine vs hand waxing. But it's all resolved now sooo....
pretty sure he was referring to the paint i posted

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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 10:45 AM
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My apologies as I think I have completed mis understood your original statement; "because hand waxing is bad. and if you are only spraying it on its useless"

I was under the impression that you were making a point that hand wax is a waste of time, based on those guidelines is why we were having the "Friendly Debate" but now we are talking about machine work, swirl marks and many other things, so I don't even know what the 'Friendly Debate is about anymore"

Is the machine work better Absolutely, is for everyone, I don't think so, I have witness many times how people have burn the paint off, even for us, we always tape the edges, so the machine it is not for everyone, Is the machine easy to use, just like any other tool, with practice it is easy, now from there we can get into an entire different subject all together, what machine, what speed, what pads, why those pads and not our pads, We can have a war over that subject all alone.

Back to the subject, the only point I'm trying to make is that you can and will get great results by hand, not only with our products but with many other products, the key is prep work, nothing else. those picture from rental cars are a prime example.

And yes I did drove 80 + miles last night to carried on this test, no today as is raining and I want you to see for yourself.
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 11:49 AM
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ok so it was all a big misunderstanding, lmao
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