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2005 SS/SC vs 2012 WRX

Old 10-28-2014, 01:55 PM
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2005 SS/SC vs 2012 WRX

I was leaving the parking deck at school yesterday and a 2012 wrx was behind me. He ended up going the same way I was and we were on the highway curisng past everyone for a while (me leading of course ) well we got to a dead section of highway and he pulled up next to me and we did one run at about 45mph and ran up to 115 or so. I'm suprised at how close the cobalt kept up honestly. He was took a 3-4 car lead on the jump. Top end of 3rd through 4th it was neck and neck he wasnt pulling anymore. All i have is a header/downpipe/exhaust and an intake. Those wrx are at 260hp and 240tq stock! Kid seemed pretty cool too.

cant wait to see him after i do a turbo swap this coming summer. 10-11 car lead will be ceratin
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Wow dude nice race.
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Wow dude nice race.
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how did the wrx jumped so far ahead on a 45roll and then u cought up? should had been even from start with you pulling up at least a car or half car on top since ur mostly stock..
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Originally Posted by jonathan923
how did the wrx jumped so far ahead on a 45roll and then u cought up? should had been even from start with you pulling up at least a car or half car on top since ur mostly stock..
Maybe wrx has better overall take off because of AWD
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Originally Posted by NikeTapia3
Maybe wrx has better overall take off because of AWD
that doesn't matter when ur already moving that fast. I think someone was just late on the jump lol.
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the reason u were neck and neck is because the wrx and sti loose a lot of power to the wheels. sti dynos at around 200whp stock, which is retarded loss. wrx would be similar im sure. so ur basically around the same whp he just has the advantage from a dig. why he jumped 3 cars on u off a roll id say would be u not being as quick on the draw as he was and he got the jump. that or wrx make more power lower down than u do. idk what there powerband is so I couldn't tell ya
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Originally Posted by tomj77
the reason u were neck and neck is because the wrx and sti loose a lot of power to the wheels. sti dynos at around 200whp stock, which is retarded loss. wrx would be similar im sure. so ur basically around the same whp he just has the advantage from a dig. why he jumped 3 cars on u off a roll id say would be u not being as quick on the draw as he was and he got the jump. that or wrx make more power lower down than u do. idk what there powerband is so I couldn't tell ya
Newer sti's are more like 230-240awhp stock.

WRX's a bit less than that.

You are right though, driveline loss and powerband are a big factor.
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Originally Posted by tomj77
the reason u were neck and neck is because the wrx and sti loose a lot of power to the wheels. sti dynos at around 200whp stock, which is retarded loss. wrx would be similar im sure. so ur basically around the same whp he just has the advantage from a dig. why he jumped 3 cars on u off a roll id say would be u not being as quick on the draw as he was and he got the jump. that or wrx make more power lower down than u do. idk what there powerband is so I couldn't tell ya
STi's dyno 230 to 250 whp stock...

WRX dyno 220 to 230 whp stock...
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That's weak. My buddy paid 36,000 brand new for his wrx in 2013 and already voided his warranty. I tried talking him out of it, but it was his choice.
All day while I'm driving in the truck is see so many wrx's. I personally think they are overrated, especially when it doesn't snow that much. Don't get me wrong id deff like them but I would rather buy like a 03 bug eye and call it a day. But it comes down to personal preference
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I have a 2014 WRX.

Once my Cobalt is paid off and I get bored of it, I'm getting an STi.

There is a night and day difference between the two. My Cobalt is much much MUCH faster than the WRX. Even stock for Stock my SS SC and my SS/TC were faster.

However, there is no rattle interior with the WRX. the power deliver is much better and the resale is much better on them.
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Originally Posted by Staged07SS
Newer sti's are more like 230-240awhp stock.

WRX's a bit less than that.

You are right though, driveline loss and powerband are a big factor.
Well they definitely improved something there cause those older ones . I was shocked when I saw what they dynod
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i hate the fact that it takes so much money and work to actually make them quick. the new STI look amazing in person imo...
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I drove a buddies launch edition. He's not really a car guy and looked at me and went "quick right" and I just had to shrug. They're nice cars. They look good and feel well built. It was a blast to throw it around in turns as well. To me its not worth a $35K price tag.
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He was the one honking it out so maybe jumped the gun a little or I was a little slow but this car was no slouch for stock. He definetly had me at first and it seemed like he shifted way before me. Maybe his gearing ratios are a little different. Nonetheless his car was def a little quicker than mine.
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And I never caught up from the 3 cars behind I just kept up from that point on he definetly won
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Did you start in 3rd?

Originally Posted by leemanfor
I have a 2014 WRX.

Once my Cobalt is paid off and I get bored of it, I'm getting an STi.

There is a night and day difference between the two. My Cobalt is much much MUCH faster than the WRX. Even stock for Stock my SS SC and my SS/TC were faster.

However, there is no rattle interior with the WRX. the power deliver is much better and the resale is much better on them.
If you want to ever be faster than your cobalt you want to get an EVO not an STI
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Originally Posted by andrewcarr1993
Did you start in 3rd?



If you want to ever be faster than your cobalt you want to get an EVO not an STI
Yeah the Evo would be a better speed choice.

but I've wanted an STi since I first seen them in 2004.
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if i ever wanted an STI id go for the eagle eye or the new 2015. if money and export wasent an issue i would take an 22b over all
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Originally Posted by jonathan923
if i ever wanted an STI id go for the eagle eye or the new 2015. if money and export wasent an issue i would take an 22b over all
I want either a 2016 or 2017.
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its redesigned? whats the difference?
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Originally Posted by jonathan923
its redesigned? whats the difference?
Rumor has it they are changing the motor in the 2016 model since the 2015 uses the same EJ257 as the previous 10 years of STi.

The new one is supposed to be a 2.5L Direct Injected flat 4. the new WRX gets great gas mileage and puts down decent power for being DI.
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Originally Posted by leemanfor
I have a 2014 WRX.

Once my Cobalt is paid off and I get bored of it, I'm getting an STi.

There is a night and day difference between the two. My Cobalt is much much MUCH faster than the WRX. Even stock for Stock my SS SC and my SS/TC were faster.

However, there is no rattle interior with the WRX. the power deliver is much better and the resale is much better on them.
By this you mean you can hook up with the awd instead of spinning 1st 2nd and 3rd. Get better tires on the Balt and you will be happier with how it puts the power down. Get the tires Infraredline is running.
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
By this you mean you can hook up with the awd instead of spinning 1st 2nd and 3rd. Get better tires on the Balt and you will be happier with how it puts the power down. Get the tires Infraredline is running.
Pretty much.

I was thinking about it.
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Originally Posted by andrewcarr1993
Did you start in 3rd?



If you want to ever be faster than your cobalt you want to get an EVO not an STI
I may have started in third i dont remember. I was more focused on slowing down to his speed than even paying attention to my gear lol. Pretty sure i started in second tho. At 45mph thats only what like 4500rmp in 2nd?

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