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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 02:21 PM
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the v6 stangs are so damn slow, i raced an auto coupe with my old 2.2Lohv 5 speed cavi and kept toe to toe with it...at higher speeds im sure it woulda pulled away from me but a 0-60 we were even pretty much
"V6 Stangs" is pretty vague... When stock, they run anywhere from high 14's (Manual '05+) to well into the 17's (Auto Convertible 94-98's).
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by halfj99
the v6 stangs are so damn slow, i raced an auto coupe with my old 2.2Lohv 5 speed cavi and kept toe to toe with it...at higher speeds im sure it woulda pulled away from me but a 0-60 we were even pretty much
Like Blainestang said, there are many many different kinds of v6 Mustangs....the 05-06 s197's will beat any Cobalt stock for stock but the ss/sc, stock are high 14's for 5-sp to low 15's for auto. I wouldn't even waste gas on a Cavi, or a Cobalt LS esp from a dig...that said a ss/sc will hand me my ass, and have lol .
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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haha...o6 grimm just thought id point this out to you, well i found it rather funny and think you should just leave it that way for ***** n giggles, but in your sig it says under your kills...."wv jetta".....LMAO....is that a new bread wagonvolks....lol...i coulda sworn they were volkswagons....might wanna fix that.
I don't know dude, I hear those West Virginia Jettas are a breed of their own......
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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I agree its a drivers race but from a stop the mustang will launch. I race mustangs all the time in my 02 S2K, I beat GTs but cobras pull not even a length on me. Any mustang before 99 I pretty much beat, and my car is stock. I always pull hard off the line.
You're telling me '03-'04 cobra's can barely beat you strock S2000?
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 09:34 PM
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You're telling me '03-'04 cobra's can barely beat you strock S2000?
Come on PhxSS, haven't you ever heard of VTEC???



Originally Posted by SRT-S2K
I agree its a drivers race but from a stop the mustang will launch. I race mustangs all the time in my 02 S2K, I beat GTs but cobras pull not even a length on me. Any mustang before 99 I pretty much beat, and my car is stock. I always pull hard off the line.
So, what does your S2K run @ the track? And what kind of 60's are you pulling to ALWAYS pull hard off the line?
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Blainestang
Come on PhxSS, haven't you ever heard of VTEC???





So, what does your S2K run @ the track? And what kind of 60's are you pulling to ALWAYS pull hard off the line?
torque > vtec imo lol
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 02:22 AM
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an S2000 pulling hard off the line? OMFG thats the funniest **** Ive ever heard
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torque > vtec imo lol
but what happens when you combine them?

fyi, the 05+ GT's have Vtec, a lot of people dont know that.
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by phxSS
You're telling me '03-'04 cobra's can barely beat you strock S2000?

no I said before 99 cobras with mods also, now the newer cobras no but the newer GT's yes.
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SRT-S2K
no I said before 99 cobras with mods also, now the newer cobras no but the newer GT's yes.

please go shoot yourself for being an idiot.. your not gonna stand a chance with either cobra let alone a modden stang with your s2k
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 09:14 AM
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Put it this way, No I don't hav any torque but mustangs have plenty. Thats why I dont spin off the line, I rev to 6k and drop the clutch. Immediatly when I do stop spinning which is after about 10-15feet that puts me right in VTEC and keep in mind I rev to 10k. So while the mustang is back there spinning I'm up ahead in my VTEC.
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 09:22 AM
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Also I havent ran at the track yet so I dont know my time. But I might dyno my S2K and the SRT.
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by helty
but what happens when you combine them? (torque+vtec)
Is that a trick question? No honda has ever done that... (just kidding of course)

srt-s2k... what happens if the mustang invests in a good set of tires and knows how to properly launch instead of just dropping the hammer which you do with your s2k?
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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Im sure if he knew what he was doing he would beat me. Yes, he has way more power than me but if he puts it out all off the line he's stayin behind unless his car has alot of power to catch back up. I also said around the year 99. I bet if you cobalts go find a COBRA you will probably beat him also. They are some of th slowest year mustangs the make and you guys knew that I bet you wouldn't be talkin like that.
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SRT-S2K
Put it this way, No I don't hav any torque but mustangs have plenty. Thats why I dont spin off the line, I rev to 6k and drop the clutch. Immediatly when I do stop spinning which is after about 10-15feet that puts me right in VTEC and keep in mind I rev to 10k. So while the mustang is back there spinning I'm up ahead in my VTEC.
Stock S2K's rev to 10K?
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 06GrimmSS/SC
So from a roll (please no arguing about roll-racing) how should an SS/SC do against a base '06 Mustang or an '06 Mustang GT?

I ask because co-workers have them and want to run them against me in my stock '06 SS/SC.
i had a guy in a brand new mustang gt convertible race me. it was after getting off the highway onto a main road. we both stopped at the light and i went first and waited to see what he would do and he punches about 1-1.5 cars beind me and im doin about 35 in 2nd and floor it and he could not pass me and i pulled away midway through 3rd gear. it might have been because it was an auto but i felt pretty good after that.
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 03:42 PM
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Yea, I have an 02 and the only cars that did that was I think 02 and 03 not sure though. I shift at about 9k though and dont forget the way my car is set up I have a custom trunk so alot of weight is over my back wheels to help me out.
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 03:43 PM
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was that mustang spinning off the line or no?
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 04:13 PM
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Who lives near Houston to let me prove it
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 05:29 PM
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I'm not saying it's impossible, because anything can happen on the street, but a stock S2000 with a bunch of extra weight in the trunk is significantly slower of the line and from a roll than a 99/01 Cobra, given equal drivers.

If you're beating New Edge Cobra's at anything in a straight line, they aren't very good drivers.

Which is no offense to you... In fact, it means you're probably a good driver.
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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I've got a 2.4 and i'm not really worried about any stock V6 stang or 5.0. moddied, well, we can't discuss modded because who knows what some whackjob has sunder his hood.

V8s... different issue. If it's an automatic, i'm basically toast, but if it's a 5 speed i figure i may have a shot if he blows the lauch.

either way, i don't really wanna mess with a stang.
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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04 mustang GT-----04 mustang cobra-----02 honda s2000
260 @ 5250 RPM----390 @ 6000 RPM------240 @ 8300 RPM
302 @ 4000 RPM----390 @ 3500 RPM------153 @ 7500 RPM

Now im not saying your car CANT beat a cobra... just spec wise i would say a GT over powers your car. Yes, it is heavier, yes that generation of mustang is notorious for having problems with traction, but if the driver of the stang has control and doesnt just spin his tires (which a good racer doesnt) then you wouldnt stand a chance, yea sure you dont hafta shift as much with the higher redline... but lets face it by the time hes in 3rd and you're just getting out of first hes probably plenty of car lengths ahead of you.

Just my thoughts
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by IonNinja
Stock S2K's rev to 10K?
Think it's 9k.
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by joeworkstoohard
I've got a 2.4 and i'm not really worried about any stock V6 stang or 5.0.
Just FYI,

-Manual '05+ V6 Mustangs are capable of high 14's, stock. Not to mention, a well driven 99-04 Manual would definately give a 2.4 a good run for it's money.

-Manual well-cared-for 5.0's are certainly capable of high 14's as well, with some running as low as low 14's stock. The fastest of which are the notchbacks which weigh about what a SS/SC weighs, has a similar amount of power, much more tq, and can get out of the hole like a relatively light RWD V8 should. (I've heard of high 13's also, but I'll stick with low 14's)... of course stock 5.0's are fairly rare. Most are either modded or ragged out by now.
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Apex
04 mustang GT-----04 mustang cobra-----02 honda s2000
260 @ 5250 RPM----390 @ 6000 RPM------240 @ 8300 RPM
302 @ 4000 RPM----390 @ 3500 RPM------153 @ 7500 RPM

Now im not saying your car CANT beat a cobra... just spec wise i would say a GT over powers your car. Yes, it is heavier, yes that generation of mustang is notorious for having problems with traction, but if the driver of the stang has control and doesnt just spin his tires (which a good racer doesnt) then you wouldnt stand a chance, yea sure you dont hafta shift as much with the higher redline... but lets face it by the time hes in 3rd and you're just getting out of first hes probably plenty of car lengths ahead of you.

Just my thoughts
Truth is, a 99-04 GT is a driver's with an S2k. Both usually run low 14's with decent driving. You've got to be willing to slip the clutch from ridiculous rpms in the S2k, but they're pretty quick if you make use of its little tq with a good helping of rpms.

Oh, and he's talking about 99/01 Cobra's, because the '03-04 Cobras would walk an S2k like he's standing on the brakes. There's a ~10mph+ difference in trap speeds.
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Blainestang
Just FYI,

-Manual '05+ V6 Mustangs are capable of high 14's, stock. Not to mention, a well driven 99-04 Manual would definately give a 2.4 a good run for it's money.

-Manual well-cared-for 5.0's are certainly capable of high 14's as well, with some running as low as low 14's stock. The fastest of which are the notchbacks which weigh about what a SS/SC weighs, has a similar amount of power, much more tq, and can get out of the hole like a relatively light RWD V8 should. (I've heard of high 13's also, but I'll stick with low 14's)... of course stock 5.0's are fairly rare. Most are either modded or ragged out by now.
right, it'd be a pretty decent race. what i mean is, i don't live in fear of them. a 2000+ GT i wouldn't even mess with.
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