jackjohnson_218

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/4...1cea304e8e.htm

So some of those posts in the link above are saying that with a chip mod and some bolt ons, the GT-S puts 190-200 whp. Thats pretty impressive if its true considering a stock GT-S is what 170hp.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/c...cb824ba9a0.htm

hmm heres a vid of a celica beating a SS/SC.. not by much tho.

forced_induction

wow i thought only girls and Asian dudes with big, spikey, dyed red at the tips hair drove celicas, not actual street racers. Eh its kinda a sleeper i guess

Psykostevo

Depends on the year. The earlier GT-Ss revved higher than the last 2 years. I think they took 600rpms out of the rev limit, but kept the cam specs the same. So if you are "chipping" the later years for the old rev limiter, and then adding timing etc I could see a good gain in comparative power.

I think they were 180bhp at best. So, with the right boltons it is plausible to get that to the wheels if not the 190whp. That is pretty good, and really high rev. I have seen a couple turbos around and used to laugh at them, then I looked up the turbo kits and they are realistically making 260bhp and weighing, what about 2400lbs? pretty good combo if you ask me.

IonFeright

lol

I didnt think they had it in them either.

Mercury

I love those things. They can be pretty quick N/A! I have seen one with some work done to it take down a stock SS/SC

just1

Yeah, the GT-S from the older years circa ~2003 have the lifters kick in at ~6000RPMs, and it's similar to Honda's VTEC. Once the lifters kick in at higher RPMs....it's like an extra boost. I have the same Toyota 2ZZ celica engine in my 2003 Pontiac Vibe GT...and I have to admit it's a sleeper with some basic performance upgrades. It's not as fast as a stock SS/SC, but it can keep up without any forced induction.

effex80

my friend has a 2000 celica gt-s automatic. Thing is slow as *****. My other friends 02 sunfire beat it....... that doesn't say much.

Psykostevo

You are talking auto AND wrong GEN

Toyotech

horrible transmission... and underpowered

those vid's are believable. i've modified and worked on many many 2zz's and with the right h/e/i/tune combo they put 190whp+ to the ground (on a dynojet)...intake and axleback 175whp, intake and no muffler 177whp at a few hundred lbs less then a ss/sc. i wouldn't call it a chip mod though, usually its e-manage with some good tuning.

Also, bolt ons like stated above have put many GT-S owners into the 13's with traps of 100+

the yamaha built motor is fantastic and takes a beating even with constant lift... they had there issues with lift bolts but sure as hell no slouch

thats the correct generation

Silv3r

Is it just me or do I hear absolutely no whine from that cobalt? where's the s/c? he has an intake installed, that should make it scream the way he's revving it. Are you sure that's an SS/SC? He swings the camera around at the very end, but its dark and I can't make out any boost gauge.

Jimmys2007CobaltSS/C

iTrader: (1)

haha lol im asian..no celica here

Sw4y1313

Yup, i just paused it at 38 seconds, you can see the light from the boost gauge through the steering wheel. Its a SS/SC.

joeworkstoohard

yeah, but do you have a sport bike?

Smarty Art

My friend has one and he says it weighs just a bit over 2400lbs. Considerable difference from a balt.

cobalt9123

apparently they're really slow, theres a supercharged manual one in my town that runs nos and only hits 14.8
A turbo one in buford but he only runs 14.6
They're not fast...and that's with some forged internals, but these were the newer ones, dunno about the older ones

matrixpuba

the celica gt-s is no joke. my matrix xrs has the same 2zz engine. on the spray it will eat most sport compacts around here.

REIGN SS

why is this in the general cobalt section?

MarcS

Moved

Psykostevo

Are there a lot of Sport Compact Scenes there in Tennesee?

liolixli

Even if you can see the guage the car doesn't sound right at all. I can hear the engine really clearly. In my car it only sounds like that when I have no boost going; otherwise, you would hear the supercharger blocking out the engine noise. I wouldn't put any validity on that win.

laloosh

the gts is a great car that not to many people know about. i know they had tranny issues, but its pretty much a rsx with a lil better top end. A regular gt 5speed manual will absolutly rape you at autox if set up right. light and nimble. 140hp or whatever they came with, dont let it fool you cause it will straight up own your ass if the driver knows whats hes doing.

Psykostevo

If this, if that..........whaa whaa

If doesn't matter

cakeeater

back in michigan where i used to tool around there was a celica with the license plate "spikey" with all the ricer junk you can imagine. i always tried to get him to race, but no cigar.

i think whoever these people are either
A. cant drive
B. are not running what they say they are running.

You give me ANY car that light and enough cash to do forced induction and forge the bottom end and i will run way faster than 14's. the gt-s's can hit 14's stock with a great driver. Forged and blown they should be MUCH faster.

Toyotech

lol, u said it before i could.. i've seen gt-s' with intake alone running mid 14's. there are many boosted gt-s' in the 12's and mwr's gt-s' have run 11's on stock block.. there are also gt-s' at 8-9 psi running mid-low 13's from the greddy kits

cakeeater

there are alot of cars that are severly underestimated here. People talk about not underestimating the 2.2's and 2.4's then talk **** about celica gt-s's, integra gsr's, and v6 mustangs, etc.

I'll tell you all a little something. There are some fast ass celicas on stock blocks, there are some DAMN fast gsr's on stock blocks, and there are a few v6 mustangs running tens on the stock longblock/transmission. now come on guys. this is why ss.net has a dwindling reputation.