Exactly..........like ***** size. Every inch over average counts for 1 tenth off your ET.

 

Yes I understand all of that, it is not new stuff. But I am still talking about the fact that a car that traps so much stronger (the SRT8) is so much more affected then the TC to the liking that it doesn't seem to affect the TC at all. You are seeing bad drivers not getting everything out of the car and you obviously are a pretty good driver getting everything you can out of yours. I don't doubt you are seeing the TC out trap it, it's just you are seeing bad drivers doing it. Both cars are going to be affected in bad air, not one will and one won't.

They aren't going to perform the same at two completely different tracks. Say at ATCO where a TC might run a 13.5 at 105 and a SRT will run a 12.8 at 110, then turn around and send them to say Vegas. They are not going to turn around and the TC run a 13.8 at 104 and the SRT a 13.8 at 101 given the same drives that drove at ATCO. They will both be affected and lose power and trap. Now if you put a crappy driver in the SRT sure can happen, but given equal drivers there is not going to be that large of a swing in trap speeds, magazine or track results given. Just don't think a SRT won't out trap you stock for stock given equal drivers no matter where you are or what evelvation and weather you are running in...

Judging by your car collection you aren't some kid and actually know something about cars and racing, but if you haven't seen it doesn't mean they haven't been doing it; especially a car that traps 6 mph more then the balt (that is just taking the high traps of both cars now).

Tyler

 

You have to remember a stock TC Cobalt is tuned such that the ECM controls the wastegate on the turbo in order to maintain the factory Desired air loads (DALs). As such in less dense air, on top of a mountain for example, the ECM will command more boost pressure in order to maintain the same airmass. The ECM will command the car to make up to 23 psi stock in some situations. All in order to maintain it programmed DALs. That is why a stock TC can run almost as fast a 4000DA as in negative DA. This applies mainly to stock tune TCs and is often incorrectly refered to as the "learn down" feature because when one with a stock TC mods his car he will notice that the car is suddenly seeing only 12 psi when it used to be 16 psi. That is because the motor is more efficient at pumping air in and out so it is more easily acheiving its DALs. Density dependent boost FTW or FTL depending on your perspective.