yes that is what he told me he had i just didnt know what it was .... he said it wasnt working right or something.. ne ways he kept up with me then pass me like notihing the other times

 

you can use water injection without an intercooler...you can use it exactly the same way you use meth injection, but you only get the temp drop benefits and you get no increase in effective octane level like you do with meth.

 

well whatever it did it work for him to pull on me those 3 times

 

But the stage kit toys uses a sprayer on the IC thats all.

 

That wastegate looks stock to me Maybe stage 2. It doesn't look like inserts to me, and the red line has nothing to do with the BOV it goes to the TPS. The pink line goes to the bov. A properly tuned stage 2 with DR will run 13.0-high 12s. Don't even start lsx cars are hand crafted by god. I have never seen a stock one under 13.3 which is still very good but bolt-ons on many cars will run the same. Even it had DRs and exhaust. Why do you even ask just race. No matter what anyone says here that is the only way to know. It will all come down to his tune. If he is running pig rich it should win, if he has it running good you could have probs. Run him from a dig. That is a real race.

 

it has the wastegate that comes with a stage 2, not exactly aftermarket. red line is TIP sensor, not BOV.

 

You should get out more.

 

I am not talking about an ls2 GTO. I am talking about ls1 TA/SS/GTOs. You are telling me 300 crank hp can run 12s in a 3klb plus car with out slicks/DRs? Ok. I would like to see a ls1 Vett stock break into the 12s with an avg. driver. I said 13.3 because of all the people I have heard/seen run a stock one that is the fastest. If stock they can run 12 my car must run low 12 because I eat stock ls1s on the street. I don't even hardly race them anymore unless I am really provoked.

 

well same ****...u gotta close the Redline of that goes into the TPS..

and pink line...its more of a red than pink...maybe he has the black inserts not the red one's

 

hmmm....

 

well i gotta agree with the Goat owners



also u got the ptp wga...ur spikin 17 holdin 15...when i was on stock turbo..i had same mods as u expect i had maxfebb exhaust,and i was spiking 20 holdin 17-18,and ive lost to gto's on highway by about 1-2 cars or so..thats MANUAL TRANNY not auto

 

I think someone needs to go back to the eyesoreteefourums.

Sorry pal but a LS1 F-Body will run 12's long before a weak ass Stage 2 Neon.

 

A tuned stage 2 can run high 12. Silly me I must have been running the v6 ones. I guess next time he tells me it is an ls1 I will call bs on him cause he should have smoked me by 100 cars. I will just have him pop his hood so I can count the plug wires. I also never said a ls1 will not run 12 but it pisses me off when people think ls1 cars are the only cars that can run 12s. I guess every other cars runs 13.0 and up. I spike 19 and hold 16 not that it matters I am missing 4 cyl. I can't run good without 8.

 

Ok, who pissed in your cheereos?

Its all good man, most people on this site are missing 4cyl and still manage 12s. Hell, some manage 10s...

 

that's just how cody is. he uses **** instead of milk every morning. the forum would be pretty dull without him to be honest.

 

Sorry I just prefer to read stuff thats true rather than fanboy BS.

I have two good friends with Neons that have stage 2 not fanboy stage 2+ but the real deal stage 2. From a roll of any speed thus to give then the advantage I still walk them by 2-3 cars to 110mph. My car is stock and has only ran low 13's around 109mph. From a dig it's ugly right after we take off.

A S2 eyesoretee-4 doesn't have the raw HP to run 12's, and it sure as hell isn't going to do it because of massive traction.

 

 

i thought you had an slp lid or something? not gonna do much, but i didnt think you were bone stock... I agree with you here though, a stage two ONLY srt-4 will get walked by a stock ls2 gto with equal drivers. a real stage 2 srt is a low 13 sec car at best, most run mid 13's (13.5's-13.4's). Don't give me this "stage 2 with a tune" bs cause stage 2 comes with a tune...when you tune it you change it and it is no longer just stage 2. no doubt the srt-4's are very quick for the money, but people are exaggerating here.

 

stage 2 srt-4 and high 12's

that goes together almost as good as waffles and cocaine

no way

 

don't knock til ya tried it!

 

lol i love that movie though

ladies.............and.......jelly

 

As far as a tune I am talking about some sort of exhaust and a way to lean it out a lil. Most stage 2 cars run very rich that is why most SRTs are s1 or s3. A stage 2 is not tuned it is a plug and go system, you can get more out of it by adjusting the fuel and boost. I don't know why anyone would just bolt on a Stage 2 and go unless they didn't care about getting the most out of their car. If you do nothing a stage 2 car will run mid 13 with good tires and tune it is possible to get 12s out of it.

 

OMG dude, that is the whole point we are making an actual STAGE 2 car is not going to run 12's...you are talking about a car that has stage two components on it but is also modified more. That's like me saying, an intake/exhuast mach will run mid 12's. Ok with a lot of other bolt ons yes it will, but that is no longer just an intake/exhaust mach 1.

 

A Stage 2 car with nothing else dosn't run worth a crap. They are hardly faster than stock unless they are on HOM. Not worth the money at all, unless you add a few bolt ons.

 

u forgot the extra 500rpm's u get lol..like that makes a diffrence..and also holds boost during WOT