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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 04:10 PM
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wow this is just out of control. who cares if the terminator is s/c it will smoke a goat and a vette no prob stock (excluding the z06). and now they are actually comming out with the GT500 KR which bumps the power up by quite a bit. so lets just stop with all this arguing bull **** and answer the guys question.
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by black06ss
wow this is just out of control. who cares if the terminator is s/c it will smoke a goat and a vette no prob stock (excluding the z06). and now they are actually comming out with the GT500 KR which bumps the power up by quite a bit. so lets just stop with all this arguing bull **** and answer the guys question.
Actually the KR is a waste of money for the price youll be paying for it. It stickers for 60k and the ADMs is having them set at well over 100k. They only make about 35-40hp more and have 3.73 gears over the base GT500. They are a limited edition car and have some upgraded looks, all of which you can buy. Hell my friend has been making the hood thats on the KR now for about a year. The only people buying them are people that have more money than sense and collectors. I guess you could say that about the people that gave 50k+ over sticker when the GT500s first came out. LOL In all honesty though any pakage out right now fom Ford (KR: $15,000 pkg) or Shelby (Super Snake: $27,000 pkg) can be made for less than half the price and still make more power.
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 04:45 PM
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yeah i wasnt going on price and i actually thought that the KR made more than that. thanks for the correction.
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by black06ss
yeah i wasnt going on price and i actually thought that the KR made more than that. thanks for the correction.
Everyone is kind of dissapointed about that, you would think being a KR it would be King **** but all they did was tweak the tune and add a CAI. Ford really screwed up when they made the KR, it seems like Ford has been doing that alot lately though. LOL
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 07:02 PM
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under 80 mph trap speed = super fishy. are you sure it was an 06 and not like a 94...? lol i mean dude...they trap like 93-94 stock, you are talkin the same kinda difference as an ss/sc trapping in the mid 80's. Im not even saying it didnt happen, im just saying there had to be more to the story here. i dont have any slips for my v6 because i truthfully don't really car much about what i run with it, i just do it sometimes for fun cause i live close to a track, but if you look around at any forums or test drives or anything they run low 15's all day and some people hit 14's. Not tryin to be an ass, but you gotta see why that is fishy. a low 15@ low-mid 90's car running mid 16's trapping under 80...that just seems very odd. the trap speed mostly, ive seen lots of cars run way slower than they should, but not 15mph less trap speed than they should.



I just looked everywhere today to find this timeslip today, and finaly did. I was wrong about what he traped, he actually traped @88.43 MPH, but he did run a 16.385. Here are the numbers, and you can see I caught him before the 60' mark like I said. All my origanal numbers were not 100% accurate due to them being of the top of my head, but here what we ran I was in the right lane. (I was bone stock, 106 degrees outside, and correction the altitude here is 2174 feet above see level)
Car # ... 116 115
Class ...
Idx/Rec..
Ov/Un ... 16385 14957

DIAL ...
R/T ... .634 .559
60' ... 2.708 2.498
330 ... 7.196 6.559
1/8 ... 10.792 9.812
MPH ... 68.78 75.59
1000... 13.837 12.599
1/4 ... 16.385 14.957
MPH ... 88.43 96.37

Right 1st 1.5036
Compulink AUTOSTART ON!!!
Both lanes STAGED @ Starter GO

Rnd # TO 1550/1549

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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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Holy **** did he just let the car idle to the 60’ mark. LOL

That car should have 60' around 2.0-2.1 that right there takes off .6-.7 off his ET which would put him at around 15.6-15.7.

Seriously I can't imagine him spinning that badly or at all so I’m going to guess he didn't give it full gas right away. I can just blow the tires off my car and still 60’ 2.4, which is the worst I’ve ever 60’.
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 07:54 PM
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I just looked everywhere today to find this timeslip today, and finaly did. I was wrong about what he traped, he actually traped @88.43 MPH, but he did run a 16.385. Here are the numbers, and you can see I caught him before the 60' mark like I said. All my origanal numbers were not 100% accurate due to them being of the top of my head, but here what we ran I was in the right lane. (I was bone stock, 106 degrees outside, and correction the altitude here is 2174 feet above see level)
Car # ... 116 115
Class ...
Idx/Rec..
Ov/Un ... 16385 14957

DIAL ...
R/T ... .634 .559
60' ... 2.708 2.498
330 ... 7.196 6.559
1/8 ... 10.792 9.812
MPH ... 68.78 75.59
1000... 13.837 12.599
1/4 ... 16.385 14.957
MPH ... 88.43 96.37

Right 1st 1.5036
Compulink AUTOSTART ON!!!
Both lanes STAGED @ Starter GO

Rnd # TO 1550/1549

..... CompuLink StarTRAK 2007
i told you LOL. if he had actually gotte a decent 60' he probably would have run a mid-low 15, he should really be taking you to the 1/8 mile mark. I just thought something was very odd. lolol 2.7 60' what a dumb ass.

Originally Posted by 04YellowGT
Everyone is kind of dissapointed about that, you would think being a KR it would be King **** but all they did was tweak the tune and add a CAI. Ford really screwed up when they made the KR, it seems like Ford has been doing that alot lately though. LOL
thats why the should change the base super snake ( 650 hp ) to the KR and the 750hp option super snake to the only super snake so it would be-

gt500 500hp
KR 650hp
Super Snake 750hp

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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 08:23 PM
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You all do relize that this was a V6 mustang that I went up against, not a GT? Just want to clarify this.

Also before anyone says anthing about my 60' time I would like to state I was launching the car pretty lighly. The car only had around 900 miles on it at the time, and I did not want to destroy the axles. I know these cobalts are easly capable of 2.2 60' times, but the track out here really sucks. Ask Hickoverlord, he cracked his tranny out here by lauching to hard, you get really violent wheel hop here. I cant wait to go back home to Texas next year, because then I am going to run my car at Ennis. I have ran there in a FWD years ago, and the track is way better. Plus it being at almost sea level I am expecting a low 13 second pass with my mods.
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by cakeeater
thats why the should change the base super snake ( 650 hp ) to the KR and the 750hp option super snake to the only super snake so it would be-

gt500 500hp
KR 650hp
Super Snake 750hp
Very True

The only problem is that the KR would sticker for $75k and the ADM on one would be around $1million. LOL The best part is that the 650hp and 750hp Super Snake pkgs both cost $27k. So you can get 100hp more for "free" but lose your warranty. They way I look at it, if you can afford a $45k car plus what ever ADM is and then a $27k pkg I don't think you'll have a problem paying out if pocket for whatever might happen to car.

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You all do relize that this was a V6 mustang that I went up against, not a GT? Just want to clarify this.
Yes but a V6 should still beable to 60' 2.0-2.1 You would have beat him either way but we're just saying it wouldn't have been as bad and that a 2.7 60' for a RWD car....well really any car is VERY VERY bad. LOl

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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cakeeater
i told you LOL. if he had actually gotte a decent 60' he probably would have run a mid-low 15, he should really be taking you to the 1/8 mile mark. I just thought something was very odd. lolol 2.7 60' what a dumb ass.
Yeah, I know I was wrong, but reguardless my whole point of the story was the kid was laughing at me and calling my car a chick car. I was laughing at him at the end though becaus this chick car just whooped his ass. Also, I am not sure it was a 06 model, but it was that body style. I assume it could of been anywhere from a 03-06 model I guess. I really do not know how to tell the differance for that matter, but I do know it was not a 94-98 or I doubt it was a 99-02 eaither. I just know it was only at most a coulple of years old, and it was a V6.

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Yes but a V6 should still beable to 60' 2.0-2.1 You would have beat him either way but we're just saying it wouldn't have been as bad and that a 2.7 60' for a RWD car....well really any car is VERY VERY bad. LOl
I really do not know a whole lot about the v6 stangs, except that I would never buy one. I am not knocking those who do or have owned one, I am just the type of person that will always by the best of a particular model. If I were to trade my car in on a stang, it would be the GT500, but actually I would never buy one of those eather. Personally If I were to buy a stang, I would shop around and find me a 93 cobra, those are my favorite of all the mustangs.

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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 08:47 PM
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I really do not know a whole lot about the v6 stangs, except that I would never buy one. I am not knocking those who do or have owned one, I am just the type of person that will always by the best of a particular model. If I were to trade my car in on a stang, it would be the GT500, but actually I would never buy one of those eather. Personally If I were to buy a stang, I would shop around and find me a 93 cobra, those are my favorite of all the mustangs.
Hell ya 93 Cobras are cool as hell, not very fast but cool none the less. Even better though 93 Cobra R.
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 09:02 PM
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You can beat from a dig if you heat your tires up, but be careful if you still got those perellis on, and another trick, when you get a little smoke, stop the car immediately, and start the race from where YOU are, i dont know why it works but it does, i guess it stops the tires from cooling down before you get to run. if you do this you can be a little more aggresive with your launch, and i do mean a LITTLE! Try it and you should jump a 1/2 car. Works for me.
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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Hell ya 93 Cobras are cool as hell, not very fast but cool none the less. Even better though 93 Cobra R.
93 Cobra R 351 FTW!!!!! I would love to have one of those!!!! The 93 cobras were still pretty fast though, ford way underrated them too. I had a friend that had one that would run low 12's to high 11's on DR's with nothing but boltons. Before you say BS I will list the mods that I can remember.
The upper and lower intake had be cut, ported and then heli coiled back together, Pro M mass air, Smog system removed with a idler pully put in place, BBK throtle body, CAI, Long tube headers no cats X-Pipe into flowmasters (did not really matter though cause he had cut outs for the track after the header), T5 tremic with a centerforce 6 puck clutch and alum. flywheel, steeda short throw shifter with adjustable stops, 3.73 gears, mosier 32 spline axles, kenny brown subframe conectors, larger pulley kit for altinator and water pump (A/C was on there but not conected), alum. water pump, BFG DR's 295-45-R15's, and (the only mod I did not like but it was pratical so he could fit the proper tires) 15" american racing rims and we had to roll the fenders with a baseball bat so the tires would not rub. I did not like this due to him having to ditch the stock 17" cobra rims, but as fast as he went through tires this was a cheaper solution. Sticky tires were way cheaper for a 15" rim VS a 17" rim if you know what I mean. This car would pull the front wheels off the ground a few inches when launching, that is once he got his subfram conectors. I told him for like 6 months he needed them too, but it took him twisting the car until his front winsheild cracked and his passanger door would not open right before he finally bought them.

Originally Posted by cobaltss2006frank
You can beat from a dig if you heat your tires up, but be careful if you still got those perellis on, and another trick, when you get a little smoke, stop the car immediately, and start the race from where YOU are, i dont know why it works but it does, i guess it stops the tires from cooling down before you get to run. if you do this you can be a little more aggresive with your launch, and i do mean a LITTLE! Try it and you should jump a 1/2 car. Works for me.
Be careful doing this if you have the stock axles. Trust me, I destroied a set of axles in my 2nd balt by doing burnouts. Invest in the stage 2 axles or launch softly, you will be buying a new set of axles eather way if you dont.

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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 09:50 PM
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93 Cobra R 351 FTW!!!!! I would love to have one of those!!!! The 93 cobras were still pretty fast though, ford way underrated them too. I had a friend that had one that would run low 12's to high 11's on DR's with nothing but boltons. Before you say BS I will list the mods that I can remember.
The upper and lower intake had be cut, ported and then heli coiled back together, Pro M mass air, Smog system removed with a idler pully put in place, BBK throtle body, CAI, Long tube headers no cats X-Pipe into flowmasters (did not really matter though cause he had cut outs for the track after the header), T5 tremic with a centerforce 6 puck clutch and alum. flywheel, steeda short throw shifter with adjustable stops, 3.73 gears, mosier 32 spline axles, kenny brown subframe conectors, larger pulley kit for altinator and water pump (A/C was on there but not conected), alum. water pump, BFG DR's 295-45-R15's, and (the only mod I did not like but it was pratical so he could fit the proper tires) 15" american racing rims and we had to roll the fenders with a baseball bat so the tires would not rub. I did not like this due to him having to ditch the stock 17" cobra rims, but as fast as he went through tires this was a cheaper solution. Sticky tires were way cheaper for a 15" rim VS a 17" rim if you know what I mean. This car would pull the front wheels off the ground a few inches when launching, that is once he got his subfram conectors. I told him for like 6 months he needed them too, but it took him twisting the car until his front winsheild cracked and his passanger door would not open right before he finally bought them.
Hell my friends 93 LX 5.0 runs 12.6s with basic bolt-ons, cam, and heads with an OK 1.8 60' so I know they are capable of it. You get that 60’ in 1.4s or better it’s possible and if you’re lifting the front tires off the ground I know you hitting at least that so I could believe it, I just hate to see a bad ass car like that modded to that extent. I want to buy one day, keep it stock, and just have it as a sweet weekend cruiser.
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by cobaltss2006frank
You can beat from a dig if you heat your tires up, but be careful if you still got those perellis on, and another trick, when you get a little smoke, stop the car immediately, and start the race from where YOU are, i dont know why it works but it does, i guess it stops the tires from cooling down before you get to run. if you do this you can be a little more aggresive with your launch, and i do mean a LITTLE! Try it and you should jump a 1/2 car. Works for me.
From a dig, stock vs. stock, a new GT is going to smoke an SS/SC if the Mustang driver is competent... PERIOD.

I mean, beside the fact that "heating up your tires" like that is actually TERRIBLE for them, you can do whatever the heck you want, you aren't going to beat a new GT from a dig, stock, vs. stock, unless the Mustang driver just plain SUCKS.


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93 Cobra R 351 FTW!!!!!
Actually, the '93 Cobra R's had the 302, just like the "regular" Cobras. In fact, it was the virtually the same engine... same claimed hp, etc. The '95 Cobra R, however, got the 351.

But yeah, you can make Fox Mustangs very fast for very little money.
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Blainestang
From a dig, stock vs. stock, a new GT is going to smoke an SS/SC if the Mustang driver is competent... PERIOD.

I mean, beside the fact that "heating up your tires" like that is actually TERRIBLE for them, you can do whatever the heck you want, you aren't going to beat a new GT from a dig, stock, vs. stock, unless the Mustang driver just plain SUCKS.
I think he is talking about our body style GT (99-04). Yes a new 05+ GT will had you your ass pretty bad.
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 04YellowGT
I think he is talking about our body style GT (99-04). Yes a new 05+ GT will had you your ass pretty bad.
Probably right... this thread has been all over the place so I forgot what the original question was

Either way, heating up street tires is still bad, and doing so certainly won't guarantee the win, even against a 99-04 GT. Even AWESOME driving won't guarantee a win, because even the 99-04 GT's are CAPABLE of faster times. It's definitely a driver's race, though.
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 03:53 PM
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Heating up the tires=greasy tires and worse traction. These aren't drag tires that perform better when heated up.
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Blainestang
From a dig, stock vs. stock, a new GT is going to smoke an SS/SC if the Mustang driver is competent... PERIOD.

I mean, beside the fact that "heating up your tires" like that is actually TERRIBLE for them, you can do whatever the heck you want, you aren't going to beat a new GT from a dig, stock, vs. stock, unless the Mustang driver just plain SUCKS.




Actually, the '93 Cobra R's had the 302, just like the "regular" Cobras. In fact, it was the virtually the same engine... same claimed hp, etc. The '95 Cobra R, however, got the 351.

But yeah, you can make Fox Mustangs very fast for very little money.
Heating my tires up has always help my traction, but i only do it when im not sure when im not what the outcome of the race is going to be, and who gives a **** if its bad for your tires racing is bad for your car... PERIOD. The ONLY thing that sucks about heating up your tires is having to buy new ones. WHICH IS WHY I WILL NEVER DO IT AGAIN. I WAS JUST TRYIN TO HELP THE GUY.

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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 06:28 AM
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Actually it's a fact that it doesn't help traction. All street tires do is get greasy when you spin them. Seriously, I'm not making this up. Drag radials/slicks love heat, street tires aren't designed to do that.
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 08:13 AM
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it's good to light them up for like a second or 2 just to get all the crap off them. i wouldn't actually HEAT up street tires up though...
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 07:19 PM
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Yea, a second or two, im not talkin about setting the parking brake and make making thick smoke.
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by cobaltss2006frank
Yea, a second or two, im not talkin about setting the parking brake and make making thick smoke.
I was assuming you were talking john force burnouts. A quick spin (QUICK) will remove all the crap off them (little stones etc). No water box
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Blainestang
From a dig, stock vs. stock, a new GT is going to smoke an SS/SC if the Mustang driver is competent... PERIOD.

I mean, beside the fact that "heating up your tires" like that is actually TERRIBLE for them, you can do whatever the heck you want, you aren't going to beat a new GT from a dig, stock, vs. stock, unless the Mustang driver just plain SUCKS.




Actually, the '93 Cobra R's had the 302, just like the "regular" Cobras. In fact, it was the virtually the same engine... same claimed hp, etc. The '95 Cobra R, however, got the 351.

But yeah, you can make Fox Mustangs very fast for very little money.
R U sure, I always thought they came with a 351 and no backseat??? I could be wrong, but I will look into it.
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 09:37 PM
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R U sure, I always thought they came with a 351 and no backseat??? I could be wrong, but I will look into it.
Your thinkin gof the 2000 Cobra R. It had the NA 5.4 DOHC with no AC, Radio, and backseat.
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