I know this guy and his sti really well. THis a legitimate. 12.5 second 112 mph trap car. Stage 2 with spot on tune. He is also a very skilled driver that knows how to pull. Anyhow I said to him if he would do a few 40-90. Pulls. He agreed and spared me the dig race. I started in 2nd and did a regular shift into third. He took me by only 2 cars. Next race I rev matched my second gear start and nls into 3rd and we were almost dead even with him only being a half car ahead at 90mph?? Wtf, was he feeling sorry for me and starting out in third gear or was he really gunning it. I know sti's are bad roll ons but a 12.5 second car pulling even with a 13.5 second car?? I was shocked and so was he. So is it safe to say that from a roll, I can stay with mid 12 second AWD cars?? Then I caught another sti off guard at a red light and by the time he realized he could not catch up. I'm very proud of my cobalt tonite. Oh btw I was trailing this very loud hissing supra with prob a huge turbo and bov, I didn't even bother......

 

Nice race. Could be its gearing and its weight that gave ya a slight advantage.. I know our cars have a monster 3rd gear. You probably hit your sweet spot and he didnt.

 

yeah, a 12.5 second AWD isnt that fast from a roll. its the equivalent to a 13 flat fwd car from a roll. sti's have really short 6 speed's so if they arent in their sweet spot theyll get beat.

 

Nice race. When I was on my old setup I would edge out my friends 04 sti that had TBE and a canned tune from a roll. He went 13.1 @105 on that setup and I went 13.8 @107. I was over half second slower from a dig but from a roll I could pull him. Now we are both on E85 and its damn close!

 

I am considering buying an STi after riding in a friend's e85 setup 05. I was always kinda, "eh" about sti's. The tiny turbo and crap pistons always turned me off because it was either stick with the stock turbo and make OK power or go with a bigger one and hope you don't crack a ring-land, but damn does e85 change the story completely for bolt ons with those cars. His went 12.1@115.X on the stock turbo with just the fuel system upgrades, exhaust, intake and the e85 tune. Pretty bad ass for a car you can drive in a bunch of snow.

 

AWD isn't the best top end. Drivetrain loss.

And with you NLS'ing and him not, he looses boost pressure where as you keep it.

Throw the 12.5 thing out the window. They gain all that time off the line. Because of AWD.

 

So a gt35r evo@ 35 psi has no top end??? I dont see your logic...

 

Haha I am sorry but that is cute, that's like saying a 6 year old has a monster right hand in boxing...

Good run OP, going from a roll against a STI always helps level the playing field!

Tyler

 

I was thinking the same thing! I think he meant 3rd gear is one of the best gears for Balts...

 

Well of course the Evo will have top end with that setup but when comparing the two, FWD tends to have better top end then AWD because of drivetrain loss as well as powering all four wheels is pointless after the launch in a strait line race and simply waste power

 

Nope, no top end at all. Its got AWD so it physically cant have good top end. :P


its not pointless right after the launch. Because if i can recall a whole **** ton of ss/tc spin until 60mph or so. So an AWD car has the advantage up until 60mph or whenever youre done spinning. Its cool to have a lot of power, but even cooler to be able to put it down. I still dont see how some guys on this website think its cool or something to brag about when you can spin to over 60mph. Id rather be getting traction and going like a bat out of hell. all you ss/tc guys need to put some 265's on your front tires! its been done a few times so itll fit.

 

What year sti because if it was a 06 then he shifts a lot and every year below and the 07 tranny is awesome

If it was a 07 then his gears are insane, nice race though

 

Not too bad. STis can be pretty quick. Get an aftermarket tune and you should be able to beat him no problem.

 

Agreed, but try to find a decent and affordable 18x9 wheel for our bolt pattern.

 

I agree, I am impressed with my friends car now. We are both hoping to go to the track next month to see how much our times and traps have improved over our dino fuel setups. He is planning on throwing a 30r on it soon, but he needs to sell his 740's and get 1000's first

 

Am I the only one who sees a problem with this? 112mph is 112mph. I dont care if it was an 18 wheeler that trapped 112, it shoulda put a hurt on you. I call bad driver in the STi, or maybe you were jumping the **** out of him on the start.

 

whats fuzzy to me is that a 112mph trap will generally net your REAL LOW 12's in an awd car if you get even a 1.8 60 foot. so to me, the driver seems a bit below average.

at the same time tho, stock ss/tc's are trapping what 106 mph? so a gm stage 1 should be able to get 109-110 traps. i think the sti trapping 112 is a bit off especially if its stock turbo and not on e85.

 

you know STI's have trapped as high as 115 on and the stock turbo right???

More importantly....I guess one of those things you see if you race a lot. An AWD 120 mph car is a lot different than a FWD 120 mph car. ANY spin inflates trap speeds....so that AWD 120 mph car is equivalent to your FWD 122-123 mph car in a lot of instances.

 

Both of these posts are wrong. GMS1 Cobalts are good for 105-106 in the best case scenarios.

Also, spin doesn't inflate trap speeds. My best 60's more often than not produce my best traps, in any car I've ever owned.

 

Don't you still drive a bolt on GTO?? gtfo. What the hell do you know about losing traction??

Spinning my ass off 1-3 will inflate my trap speed everytime...

Spinning in place you will cover less ground as your wheels go up in MPH (rotations) resulting in a higher mph at the end of the same distance. Go read a ******* book

 

i just went to the top 1/4 mile thread and saw stock lnf's running 103-104 mph traps. so id think a gm stage 1 tune alone w/ no other mods should get them at least to a 106-107 trap. maybe higher with really good conditions and supporting mods.
Memphis stylz: i know some st's have trapped as high as 115 on stock turbo, but thats not usual. im just saying the norm/ average youll see.

 

Actually if you knew anything about physics along with a experience outside of no traction FWD cars you would know that your trap should go up with better traction

You see 3 people with 103-104 traps. Obviously 3 people who tricked their computers to get those traps. What you DON'T see are the 5,000 people who trapped 99-101.

 

yeah...the mechanical engineer doesn't have a clue on physics...thanks continue keyboard battling cobalt owners all day.

 

Next you're gonna pull a "Badss/sc" and start posting your achievements and Call of Duty stats.

 

??? you said I'm ignorant to physics...I said sure, even though it's my job to know it for a living.. Are you slow?? Cause you're just being irrelevant now